I have the Vise IT in all but 3 of my balls. I've been using it for close to 10 years with no problems over the last 8 or so years. They had some issues with the original piece which went in the ball but corrected the design flaw quickly. One advantage is that you get the same feel ball to ball.Because of the shape of my thumb it used to take a couple weeks of "tweeking" the hole for a good feel. Now i'm comfortable right off the press. I just put a Turbo in one of my balls to try but can't give you any feedback on it yet. The oneadvantage to the IT is that there are 3 sizes of slug available where with the Turbo you only have one size
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