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    Default Question on releasing the ball for more revs.

    I'm a old bowler getting back into it after decades away.

    I'm working on getting more revs to help curve the ball. not that I need to have a wicked hook for my ego but I just want to be able to turn the ball into the pocket without having to throw it so slowly. If I roll it at my normal speed 15-15.5 mph it usually doesn't turn in time and I have to slow down my throw which is hard to repeat. it makes me inconsistent.
    I do move around, get to the dry more and it helps but sometimes my release is inconsistent and it doesn't turn enough and the ball doesn't make it to the pocket.

    Ok, so my question is what's the best way to increase revs and repeat the release of the ball more consistently.?

    I have tried the braces: Robby rev and mongoose... they help me get the feel of keeping my wrist from braking back and releasing the fingers last.

    I know there isn't a quick fix but wondering what are some keys I should look for or think about.

    thanks

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    There are several ways to go about it. I have been working on my release and revs since this summer when I got back into bowling. I was the old school come around the ball and shake hands
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    If you are just getting back in, have you had your fit checked lately?

    That being said, first and foremost is stay behind the ball and come out clean with as little as grip pressure as possible, which often go hand in hand if your fit is right.

    If you are really wanting to increase your revs, this is what I have been working on. It breaks it down into steps and is easy to follow even tho it is in Japanese. It is the only release that has noticeable increased my revs. So much so, that I have trouble staying on the right side of the headpin. I need to learn to increase my speed if I want to use this release.

    As of lately, I have been using a slightly modified version of this release and is working well for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YeYjbyJu8
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    I did get a couple of bowling balls this summer as the pro laughed at my Ebonite Nitro from the eighties...lol

    so I am fit correctly. I did watch the video, very interesting, lots of wrist snap. I will try it out tomorrow. let you know.
    thanks

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    A couple of suggestions:
    I think there are some very good coaches in Long Island. A little guidance can really shorten the learning curve.

    To paraphrase Mark Baker, when you fix the foot work, swing, and especially the timing, the release almost fixes itself.

    I hope your pro watch you bowl before selling you new balls. If he didn't watch and figure out your PAP you may be fighting your equipment trying to get it to hook.
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    Getting a good coach is the best way to get back into bowling, especially if you've been out a while.


    Here's a video though to give you some ideas.


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    Listen to Norm Duke. He knows it all

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    great, thanks all. just frustrating not to be able to time that release and get the revs.

    I do have a pro that is really good, I just never get to see him. He has been a big help.

    I'm working on it, keep you posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhead88 View Post
    I did get a couple of bowling balls this summer as the pro laughed at my Ebonite Nitro from the eighties...lol

    so I am fit correctly. I did watch the video, very interesting, lots of wrist snap. I will try it out tomorrow. let you know.
    thanks
    When you stay behind the ball at the release you thumb will fly out first and then the weight of the ball will uncup your hand and the ball will pull off of your fingertips creating the revs without having to physically snap your wrist hard. I just turned 70 and use this kind of release. It is not as hard to get used to as you might think. It took me only a short time to trust it. At first you might feel as if you are dropping the ball. This is normal but don't worry about it. Good luck.
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    I threw a about the same speed as you and don't have an issue. There's a guy on my team who rolls it a lot faster and barely gets any hook. What type of ball all you using? Do you need to bake it to get the oil out? Perhaps the ball is dead. Perhaps the ball is plastic if and not made to hook. How are theninserts if you are using any? Worn out? All in all, most likely your release delivery. Or is it not getting out of the oil? Have a video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blomer View Post
    I threw a about the same speed as you and don't have an issue. There's a guy on my team who rolls it a lot faster and barely gets any hook. What type of ball all you using? Do you need to bake it to get the oil out? Perhaps the ball is dead. Perhaps the ball is plastic if and not made to hook. How are theninserts if you are using any? Worn out? All in all, most likely your release delivery. Or is it not getting out of the oil? Have a video?
    The new balls are: first got the HyWire, rotogrip... then the Storm Snaplock..... don't get me wrong, it hooks if I do it right and dont put too much speed on it. I clean the balls everytime and have taken the oil out.


    What about using a aid. I have been using the Mongoose brace. seems to help but I really would like to bowl without one...
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