Question on releasing the ball for more revs.

[KYDave]

Sounds like maybe a combo of speed dominating revs or release or both.

Where do you most often play the ball and what volume/length of oil?

Lots of different opinions on braces. My opinion is if you throw with the brace and it feels completely different than without, you need one. Once you can get yourself trained on wrist position and what it feels like then you can consider bowling without it. I do know several people who have always bowled with a brace and don't like the feeling of bowling without it. It's up to you to determine what you are most comfortable with.

[Jarhead88]

Sounds like maybe a combo of speed dominating revs or release or both.

Where do you most often play the ball and what volume/length of oil?

Lots of different opinions on braces. My opinion is if you throw with the brace and it feels completely different than without, you need one. Once you can get yourself trained on wrist position and what it feels like then you can consider bowling without it. I do know several people who have always bowled with a brace and don't like the feeling of bowling without it. It's up to you to determine what you are most comfortable with.

My starting position is at the second set of dots, middle, and I have my right foot on the middle dot. (that is my starting spot, I adjust depending on lane conditions)
I throw at or inside the second arrow, 8-10 board. It usually is heading to the 6 pin and then turns into the pocket....(IF I have the speed and release right)

the lanes are usually medium oil.

I feel better/more consistant with the brace and definitely see the revs more consistent. but with it I will never be able to do that release of the wrist I see pros talk about. Like Norm Duke mentioned in that previous video.

[J Anderson]

My starting position is at the second set of dots, middle, and I have my right foot on the middle dot. (that is my starting spot, I adjust depending on lane conditions)
I throw at or inside the second arrow, 8-10 board. It usually is heading to the 6 pin and then turns into the pocket....(IF I have the speed and release right)

the lanes are usually medium oil.

I feel better/more consistant with the brace and definitely see the revs more consistent. but with it I will never be able to do that release of the wrist I see pros talk about. Like Norm Duke mentioned in that previous video.

Are you right or left handed?

I ask because if you use your slide foot as your reference for which board to start from, it's easy to keep track of any drifting during your approach. This is something that's good to check from time to time, especially when you have to play further inside than normal, as we often drift back toward our original line after making a big move, or a lot of small moves. That said, the most important thing is to be consistant in how you gauge your starting point.

[Jarhead88]

Are you right or left handed?

I ask because if you use your slide foot as your reference for which board to start from, it's easy to keep track of any drifting during your approach. This is something that's good to check from time to time, especially when you have to play further inside than normal, as we often drift back toward our original line after making a big move, or a lot of small moves. That said, the most important thing is to be consistant in how you gauge your starting point.

I am right handed. I do walk up the lane, video I have taken shows that is ok.
just not sure about the "yoyo" thing Norm Duke talks about. If I wear the brace my wrist is firm and the rotation is more consistent. when I take the brace off I seem to loose my wrist, bends back.. not a good release.

[J Anderson]

I am right handed. I do walk up the lane, video I have taken shows that is ok.
just not sure about the "yoyo" thing Norm Duke talks about. If I wear the brace my wrist is firm and the rotation is more consistent. when I take the brace off I seem to loose my wrist, bends back.. not a good release.

The old style release was so dependent on keeping a firm wrist that you almost had to focus on keeping straight or cupped for the entire swing. The "modern" release is dependent on letting the ball roll off the fingers as the wrist goes from some degree of being cupped to bending backwards. Looking at videos of Mike Fagan, it's apparent that it almost doesn't matter what the wrist does from push-away to the top of the backswing. At the that point, meaning the top of the back swing, it takes virtually no strength to cup the wrist since gravity is helping pull the ball down. Then it's the simple matter of un-cupping and releasing at the right point. Note; I said simple, not easy.

The first thread below you've probably seen, but it does give good slow motion views of what happens at release. The second gives more emphasis on how to actually develop it.

http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads...-and-Release-1

http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads...es-parts-1-2-3

[chip82901]

I definitely don't have an issue with rev rate (2 hander), but I've actually DECREASED my rev rate to get more accuracy over the last few years. But, when I went to a clinic this past year with Wes Mallott and Randy Peterson, the one thing they said, is watch the unloading at the bottom of the swing. Look at a slow mo of someone like EJ Tackett. All of his power is generated from the legs, and unleashed through his hand. It made sense when I watched it in slow motion. You can physically see the cupping and unloading out of the back swing through the release.