Tracking over thumb

[fokai73]

bowl1820 is right too.. release can be a factor.

I'd go into detail of my experience, but i'll just sit back and read what others have to say.... but robs statement "no", X-hole wouldn't help has me smiling.....

Rob you said no, but with no explanation why it wouldn't work. interesting...

[chip82901]

I have a pitch blue that I initially track over the middle finger on, as I try to roll it with less axis tilt, trying to get it to read a little earlier. This is the only ball of mine that does this, and it is expected. Being a 2-handed bowler, I personally try to avoid pin down as I usually need length and angle, not early read, on anything other than urethane

[drlawsoniii]

That's not necessarily true, if the bowtie is just moved along the Initial track. The bowtie location has changed but not the initial track, unless you've made some other change along the way also.

Example I've tracked right near thumb hole for years and have had low pin positions which caused the ball to flare over the fingerholes. Then when I moved the pin up to stop it, it had little to no affect on where the initial track was in relation to the thumbhole. It just moved the bowtie location farther along the initial track.



Note: Initially rolling over the thumbhole and flaring over the thumbhole are two different things. I'm assuming he's Initially rolling over the thumbhole.

The idea by adding the x-hole to the ball is it could help produce a little more flare in the air. So that the hole has moved enough so that the initial track doesn't start across the thumb hole or that it at least comes off the hole faster .(note this is not my idea just one that has been mentioned before in relation to the same problem in others)

This is not to say it's a guarantee it would, just that it might in some cases.



The main thing is look for release issues first, then if none found look at plugging and redrilling. Because if it's release issue, plugging and redrilling probably won't help.

Ok so with all this information, why does only this ball do it? Granted my snaplock doesnt have the pin down its up and to the right a little, i can switch back and forth every other ball with the same release and never roll over the thumb with the snaplock.

[chip82901]

Are you flaring over it or is it the initial track that is going over the thumb? If it's flaring over the thumb on a pin down, could just be a slight miss by your PSO on drilling. If it is initial track, then it is your release (as in reduced axis tilt).

[drlawsoniii]

Im not sure it sounds like i'm rolling over it from the moment it hits the lane.

[chip82901]

If that's the case, then its your release. It may feel the same, but only way to really know would be to take a video of directly behind you. Make sure you can slow the video down or go frame by frame.

[bowl1820]

Ok so with all this information, why does only this ball do it?

I can't say, that's why you have to check.

You start with release because that is simplest place to start, you also check fit spans, pitches etc.

Once those are eliminated, then you talk to the PSO about adjusting the layout.

[RobLV1]

bowl1820 is right too.. release can be a factor.

I'd go into detail of my experience, but i'll just sit back and read what others have to say.... but robs statement "no", X-hole wouldn't help has me smiling.....

Rob you said no, but with no explanation why it wouldn't work. interesting...

... because over the years I've seen it tried without success. I'm glad you're in a good mood. Keep smiling!

[fokai73]

... because over the years I've seen it tried without success. I'm glad you're in a good mood. Keep smiling!

I Saved on plug on re-drill when a large weight hole was placed down my VAL. Doing this helped move the flare away from the thumb hole on my hy-road. This has worked in others balls as well.

When local PSO said "Don't do it" I wanted to see for myself. So I called/text two friends of mine (these guys are not "joe the PSO guy" but are in/were in the industry) to see what were my options.. They were right about the large hole down my VAL.

your experience is not going to be the same for others.....

[Tony]

I have a Hustle with a weak drilling and have only used it few times but noticed a couple of times when I flattened it out and threw a straight ball it sounded like it rolled over the thumb, will have to confirm that next time I use it. I would much rather add a weight hole than change the drilling, so would be worth trying.....