Does rev rate determine how deep you can play?

[fokai73]

To Hammer, if the slide foot for is on 35 for a classic bowler type, and he finishes his slide on 32nd board at the foul line for example. His lay down would be around 26 or 25 board. Then the ball crosses the 4th arrow or just inside it, and you said break point at 25?? I'm a bit confused.

[Tony]

One other factor that would come into play is the lane surface, I am toward the lower side with speed and revs and can usually play 20-25 throwing 10-12, but a couple of weeks ago the lanes were exceptionally dry and I was playing out at the gutter throwing between 3rd and 4th arrow to get to the pocket.
Otherwise I tend to agree with the general idea that if I'm not forced conditions to play deeper in most cases I'm going to score better taking advantage of the line I can play that's a little straighter to the pocket.

[J Anderson]

To Hammer, if the slide foot for is on 35 for a classic bowler type, and he finishes his slide on 32nd board at the foul line for example. His lay down would be around 26 or 25 board. Then the ball crosses the 4th arrow or just inside it, and you said break point at 25?? I'm a bit confused.

It's always dangerous to assume where someone's slide foot will wind up. While many bowlers who play staight up the boards do tend to their feet straight ahead, in other words without a crossover step, until the last step, when the slide foot drifts 3 or 4 boards right for balance, there are those who have a cross over step and slide within a board of where they started.

I'm confused too about 25 as a break point. That would only work as a break point for someone throwing a back-up ball.

[fokai73]

It's always dangerous to assume where someone's slide foot will wind up. While many bowlers who play staight up the boards do tend to their feet straight ahead, in other words without a crossover step, until the last step, when the slide foot drifts 3 or 4 boards right for balance, there are those who have a cross over step and slide within a board of where they started.

I'm confused too about 25 as a break point. That would only work as a break point for someone throwing a back-up ball.

I was generalizing. I had a 1 to 1 foot work and used this example for my reply. today I have a negative 1 drift. I know of bowlers who drift up to 12 boards and she carries a deuce average, top female in our scratch league. A buddy doesn't crossover until he slides. repeats his wacky foot work and also carries close to 220 average. both are low rev players.

[fokai73]

btw, good article/link.....

I should renew my BTM subscription.....

[Hammer]

I made a mistake on that 25 board being the breakpoint, I meant the 15 board being the breakpoint for slow speed and 250 rev players. This is if this type of player has their slide foot on board 35.

[foreverincamo]

I don't have a high rev rate, but if the oil pattern makes me play deep, I'm still able to do it. It's a matter of speed control and getting the ball to skid as far as I need

[DMS]

I don't have a high rev rate either, but if the pattern is short, I can play inside with no trouble at all. At the last tournament I played, they had a 32 foot pattern and I was shooting between 15 and 20 at the arrows, with break point around 5 to 8 board. Had to throw it real fast even with my low rev rate... around 17 or 18 MPH at the pins. My normal shot on long oil (40 and more) is up the 7 or 8 board and about 11 or 12 MPH.

Gotta' be versatile! For me, changing speed is the easiest way to adjust my shot... Release changes very little.

[KYDave]

While on the subject...

What do you consider a high rev rate? Above a certain rpm or rev rate in relation to speed?

I have a buddy who doesn't have a high rev rate in my mind from a pure rpm standpoint, but it seriously dominates his speed to where he can hardly keep right of the headpin