Are you saying the others are sandbagging?
ABT Tourney frustration
Bowled my first ever ABT local tourney in SLC this weekend. One thing I noticed...if you're over 190 average, don't even bother. There was SO.MUCH.HANDICAP. Also, they bowled on a house pattern that was flooded in the middle. When I say a boat load, one of the guys that made the semi finals was getting 69 pins a game, plus 9 BONUS pins a game...and rolled a 201, 177 in qualifying! A buddy of mine made the semis with 12 pins a game, goes 440 for 2 games and was 50 pins out from making the cut to the top 4. I'd like to bowl another one, but definitely would like more competition in it!
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- High Game: 300 (3 11 in a row) / High Series: 799
- Current Average: 202 / PAP: 5" over, 1/8" up
- Rev Rate: 425rpm / 2-Hands
Are you saying the others are sandbagging?
I've thought about entering one of these, but have heard nightmares like this. This'll pretty much settle it.
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I dunno about sandbagging, but definitely not the caliber of bowlers I would have figured for $1000 to win. It definitely made me a little frustrated when I got there and the director told me they only bowl on house shots as he can't get bowlers otherwise. Was even thinking of going to the big one in Vegas in a few months, but if it's anything like the local one here, not gonna waste my money lolOriginally Posted by foreverincamo
- Current Arsenal: Storm Timeless, Storm Phaze II, Storm Pitch Black, Storm Drive, Rotogrip Hot Cell, Rotogrip Show Off, DV8 Turmoil Pearl
- High Game: 300 (3 11 in a row) / High Series: 799
- Current Average: 202 / PAP: 5" over, 1/8" up
- Rev Rate: 425rpm / 2-Hands
ABT: another baggers tournament.
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^ exactly. That's what we call it around here too
I tried the abta...is was horrible. It was all ran by asians....I think many of whom were related (husbands/wives, sisters/brothers, etc...)...and it seemed like the same 3-4 bowlers won each week...75% of the time...it was one of the ones that ran it or was related.
The ABT was better...but the bonus handicap system (designed to encourage players to participate each week/month) tends to make it difficult to win unless you want to participate a lot. I cashed two out of 4 tournaments...but I never made it into the top 10.
I'd probably give the ABT a try again...but I'd need a higher average and a great deal more disposable income. And by the time I get "good enough", I'd probably be more interested in scratch, sport, or PBA challenges.
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Racist much. Try putting blacks instead of asians and see how that looks. Inferring that since it was run by asians it was rigged. Maybe it was because they were run by the same extended family? Or are all asians scammers? I'm curious. Yes, I'm Asian so you probably don't trust me either.
Last edited by NewToBowling; 04-29-2017 at 01:08 PM.
I doubt it was directed at Asian people in particular, he just feels that anytime someone beats him, they are getting an advantage somewhere or somehow, if they have lower averages they are sand bagging, if they have higher averages they are boosted by easy home lane conditions..... Pretty much all the odds are stacked against him.
I think it's a conspiracy and all of the 1000's of bowlers in his area are working together to prevent Aslan from doing well. I have to say if there was a conspiracy it would be doing pretty well.....now since he might be moving, presumably to get away from this situation, but we are way ahead of the game and have organizers stashed all over the country ready to collaborate and keep him from winning. Iceman and the farm boys in the Midwest, Several guys on the east coast and others. Don't worry California / Vegas group we have it covered if he moves this way !
Still, that was an ignorant comment. there are ways Aslan could of stated how shady a tournament was because it seemed to run by relatives or bowling buddies.
I consider myself Pacific Islander with Asian roots (blood line on my fathers side started in southern Italy) and I'm not sensitive to racial remarks towards me even though my parents suffered racially moving to America after WWII. I'm just too laid back to waste my time on ignorance..
where I bowl, my people's be shady, so are white dudes, black dudes, and some need to be black balled or banned. You see, bowling will have baggers, the system encourages it..
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