Excuse my ignorance, what does the A stand for?
Both. I never really paid any attention to it but when it was mentioned here I did notice there was a large Asian presence at the ABT and one other large paying handicap tournament I did. Doesn't bother me either way really. As long as the money is green and beer is cold lolOriginally Posted by fordman1
Robert are you referring to Asians or sandbaggers? Be careful or you will get in trouble with the super duper senior moderator.
Excuse my ignorance, what does the A stand for?
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Not Asian lol
It was not meant to generalize the entire race of asian or pacific islanders. Some of the best people I know are Asian (from one area or antoher) and I would not generalize 1/5 of the World's population.
THAT BEING SAID...I've been told BY ASIANS....that one of the "common beliefs" in their communities is that "cheating is fine, as long as you can get away with it." Another version of that is, "if you're not cheating, you're not trying."
I, like Iceman, am TOTALLY against that philosophy...regardless of what race (because I've heard some similar comments by african americans, caucasians, etc...) holds that belief.
You're a good guy in my book NTB...but as TimmyB stated (quoted below)...I'm one of the least poltically correct people I know. That is NOT...because I'm callous or hateful or non-empathetic/sympathetic...I just tend to be brutally honest and our society has moved away from honesty to a society where we all just say what everyone wants to hear...because God forbid someone says something we disagree with.
Tony bowls at one of the easiest centers in his area...he didn't "like" that I pointed that out...so now he's mad at me. Whatever.
I didn't make up any of the stats I used to prove my argument...statistics "can" be bent to prove an individual's hypothesis...but statistics also can be used to validate an assumption. Had I looked into the matter and found that Tony's center was NOT one of the easier centers in the area...I'd have said so.
I look forward to bowling against Tony in the future.
But...as we found out during the 2013/2014 "Bowling Boards Virtual Tour"...once you start "leveling the playing field" and forcing bowlers to bowl at centers they don't usually bowl at...bowlers tend to "retreat" to the safety of their home center. I heard excuse after excuse after excuse....everything from "traffic" to "crime rates" to pretty much ANY excuse to avoid playing on a level playing field when I was organizing that competition.
I WISH I would have gotten to respond to Tony's post on "Knowledge vs. Natural Talent"....it was a "gem". But...Bowl1820 killed it before I could respond. I actually could make a really good case for bowling knowledge...but I digress.
So...Tony...I'll be in the MidWest soon. I'm sure we can find a center midway between NW Illinois and central Iowa...and we can settle this the old fashioned way (NOT a fight...don't shut the thread down because I'm "threatening a member")...but I'd be more than thrilled to put my bowling knowledge AND skill against your natural abilities on a level playing field. MORE than thrilled. But, given my past experience with the VBT...I have a sneaking suspicion Tony will have NUMEROUS reasons why he can't meet the challenge.
Again, (see above post), my statement wasn't meant to disparage 1/5 of the World's population. The TNBA is primarily run by African Americans. I haven't bowled in a TNBA event...but if I DID...and IF it was run in a "shady" fashion....I'd probably have described it the same exact way..."run by almost all African Americans, many of whom were related." If people want to be butt hurt....they are gonna be butt hurt. That's just the way the World works nowadays. I apologize my thread wasn't about ice cream, bunny rabbits, and unicorns....and flower power...but thats just not who I am. Ignorant? Maybe. Probably. I'm sure I'm "ignorant" about certain things....I'm sure everyone is. But, I can only go by my experiences and try to be fair in my responses. I don't believe my post was: "All Asian people are cheating &$%%wads." That would be ignorant. I merely made an observation based on my experiences. I'm sure if my post truly upset you...there is some snowflake cry room on some nearby college campus where you can go to get free hugs.
Actually, the ABT in this area is run by all white people...and the 3 people in charge are all related. However, that didn't seem to be a problem in the 4 events I took part in...and the family members weren't winning every single week. Does that mean "all white people are fair?" Nope...definitely not. That would be an ignorant statement.
TimmyB sums it up quite well. I have never apologized for I who I am...I didn't back down when the site threatened me with banishment...and I'm not going to start now. HOWEVER...I have "mellowed" in my time on the site...am much less of a "bull in a china shop" than I used to be...and I HAVE apologized for posting things if I was legitimately wrong or short-sighted. I'm not perfect...not by a LONG shot...but hopefully my positive impacts in the forum outweigh my negatives.
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Lots of great stuff there. Tell us how you feel about Russians, North Koreans or Muslims? I ordered steak in Korea years ago and later found out it was dog. Lots more to that story but not here and not now.
It kills me how much a 170 average bowler talks smack. I don't care what house you bowl in, 170 is 170. Even in a hard house, anyone that's decent is over 185. I bowl in notoriously the hardest house in WY. that being said, I think I finished this OFF year at 190. Years past, I've been well over 200. The hardest part about our house? Carry (twister pins are the devil). Get me on somewhere with wood pins (pretty much anywhere else in the state) and I'm 215+ all day (it's been proven). I think some of you guys think you know more than you actually do. It makes for cheap entertainment!
- Current Arsenal: Storm Timeless, Storm Phaze II, Storm Pitch Black, Storm Drive, Rotogrip Hot Cell, Rotogrip Show Off, DV8 Turmoil Pearl
- High Game: 300 (3 11 in a row) / High Series: 799
- Current Average: 202 / PAP: 5" over, 1/8" up
- Rev Rate: 425rpm / 2-Hands
All you did was copy/paste your post from the other thread.
So...go to the other thread and I already responded to you. Although, I don't know if you're talking about me or not, referring to a "170 average bowler". Or, are you referring to a post I made in late 2014 when I was a 170s average bowler? Or...are you referring to my "lifetime average".
Just to help ya a bit...that "lifetime average" if my average over the course of my entire life bowling. I started keeping track of it when I was casually bowling a few times a year...when I was about...10 years old????? As of right now...it includes 2,849 games over 3 decades. Given the number of games...it takes about 150 games to raise it one pin.
In Bag: (: .) Zen Master Solid; (: .) Perfect Mindset; (: .) Brunswick Endeavor; (: .) Outer Limits Pearl; (: .) Ebonite Maxim
USBC#: 8259-59071; USBC Sanctioned Average = 192; Lifetime Average = 172;
Ball Speed: 14.7mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 198
Smokey this is not 'Nam', this is bowling. There are rules. Proud two-time winner of a bowlingboards.com weekly ball give-away!
You live in Dearborn. Tell me how you feel about Muslims. (native Michigander joke)
They treat their woman terribly. Ever heard of female circumcision? Barbaric?
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