Is there such thing as a true tap?

[foreverincamo]

Sorry, but as a righty, leaving a solid 8 is getting tapped. I left a solid 9 after opening with the front 8 last week, and the pocket 7-10, after opening with the front 6. Both were good hits, but not strikes. I watched a pro today in a regional event by my house shoot 299 with a solid 8. Every person there said he was tapped. I agree

[Amyers]

Sorry, but as a righty, leaving a solid 8 is getting tapped. I left a solid 9 after opening with the front 8 last week, and the pocket 7-10, after opening with the front 6. Both were good hits, but not strikes. I watched a pro today in a regional event by my house shoot 299 with a solid 8. Every person there said he was tapped. I agree

Sorry but that's just not true anymore. Back in the plastic ball days the 8 pin was a tap but with modern bowling balls it just not. A 8 pin leave is almost always left on a ball that is driving too hard to the pocket on a high flush hit with modern balls. Honestly a ringing 10 is probably closer to tap than a solid 8 anymore at least I have a harder time identifying the cause for those at times.

[Eddy]

Sorry, but as a righty, leaving a solid 8 is getting tapped. I left a solid 9 after opening with the front 8 last week, and the pocket 7-10, after opening with the front 6. Both were good hits, but not strikes. I watched a pro today in a regional event by my house shoot 299 with a solid 8. Every person there said he was tapped. I agree

There's a reason he left the 8 pin, and it's not because the bowling gods were angry. I disagree with you, perfect shots don't always have to "look perfect". An 8 pin leave, by most accounts is a great hit in the pocket but it's not perfect because it didn't strike. I'm just not a believer in getting tapped. I get what I deserve.

[foreverincamo]

Tell Randy Peterson that.

[1VegasBowler]

Sorry but that's just not true anymore. Back in the plastic ball days the 8 pin was a tap but with modern bowling balls it just not. A 8 pin leave is almost always left on a ball that is driving too hard to the pocket on a high flush hit with modern balls. Honestly a ringing 10 is probably closer to tap than a solid 8 anymore at least I have a harder time identifying the cause for those at times.

I'm going to disagree here my friend.

If the 8 pin is left, the ball is deflecting enough where it doesn't have a chance to split the 8 & 9.

Whereas, if the 9 pin is left, the ball is driving so hard it doesn't deflect and drives right through the 8 pin.

To me, the perfect strike comes when the ball splits the 8 & 9.

The toughest thing to see is when you think you have a great hit and leave the 7 or 10, or even the 7-10.

[Amyers]

I'm going to disagree here my friend.

If the 8 pin is left, the ball is deflecting enough where it doesn't have a chance to split the 8 & 9.

Whereas, if the 9 pin is left, the ball is driving so hard it doesn't deflect and drives right through the 8 pin.

To me, the perfect strike comes when the ball splits the 8 & 9.

The toughest thing to see is when you think you have a great hit and leave the 7 or 10, or even the 7-10.

Not sure where we disagree from what you wrote.?

[J Anderson]

Sorry but that's just not true anymore. Back in the plastic ball days the 8 pin was a tap but with modern bowling balls it just not. A 8 pin leave is almost always left on a ball that is driving too hard to the pocket on a high flush hit with modern balls. Honestly a ringing 10 is probably closer to tap than a solid 8 anymore at least I have a harder time identifying the cause for those at times.

I'm going to disagree here my friend.

If the 8 pin is left, the ball is deflecting enough where it doesn't have a chance to split the 8 & 9.

Whereas, if the 9 pin is left, the ball is driving so hard it doesn't deflect and drives right through the 8 pin.

To me, the perfect strike comes when the ball splits the 8 & 9.

The toughest thing to see is when you think you have a great hit and leave the 7 or 10, or even the 7-10.

Not sure where we disagree from what you wrote.?

Amyers, what you said about the cause of an 8 pin being left is what 1Vegasbowler said caused the 9 to be left. So unless we’re talking lefty, Vegas is right.

[JasonNJ]

I took a silver coaching class from Ron Hatfield back in Aug and he's writing a book with someone and he didn't want to write a regular bowling book on how to bowl, this book covers a lot pf physics and math. He said the pocket is the 17.5 board, if the ball hits the pins at that board you strike pretty much every time regardless of angle of entry. He said it may look like you are hitting the pocket from 60 ft, you really aren't. If you see any pin fall late, then it was a "lucky" strike. I asked him about the stone 8 and he said the only true tap is the 9 pin. Unfortunately, he didn't want to give the whole book away so didn't get into the reason why the 9 pin was the only true tap.

Anyway, it was definitely an interesting conversation and I'm looking forward to the book when it comes out.

[Amyers]

Amyers, what you said about the cause of an 8 pin being left is what 1Vegasbowler said caused the 9 to be left. So unless we’re talking lefty, Vegas is right.

Thank you for pointing that out I war referring to the 9 and miss hit the 8 and didn't realize it

[Eddy]

I'm going to disagree here my friend.

If the 8 pin is left, the ball is deflecting enough where it doesn't have a chance to split the 8 & 9.

Whereas, if the 9 pin is left, the ball is driving so hard it doesn't deflect and drives right through the 8 pin.

To me, the perfect strike comes when the ball splits the 8 & 9.

The toughest thing to see is when you think you have a great hit and leave the 7 or 10, or even the 7-10.

Funny you mentioned the 7-10. I left it after what I thought was a nice shot. But I will stick by my belief that there is no such thing as a true tap.