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    I think knee pain is part of the game. Pros experience is as well. You're putting a tremendous amount of force on that one joint. Most bowlers will experience knee pain (opposite knee they bowl with) and elbow pain (bowling elbow) in some form or to some degree.

    Good form helps with a great deal of the upper body issues such as back, elbow, and shoulder issues. Not saying those won't end up hurting...everyone is different...everyone has different injury history...but for those that are younger and have no previous shoulder, back, or elbow issues...I've found poor bowling form will often be the culprit. When my swing was BAD...when I first started...I had back pain and shoulder pain...because my back and shoulder were doing WAY too much work. When I "quieted my swing"...those areas have never hurt since.

    Same thing with forearm pain...almost 100% of the time you get forearm pain...you're gripping the ball too hard.

    I do have elbow pain...that tennis elbow strap has virtually eliminated it.

    Knee pain is tougher:

    - It depends on how tore up your knee already is. Mine took alot of abuse from baseball, football, and taekwondo...so it's already a liability.

    - It also depends on your age...obviously we break down over time.

    - It depends on how tall you are. Shorter bowlers are closer to the lane and can reach their release point without as much bending.

    - It depends on how much you weigh. When I was 200-215...my knee was fine. Now I'm 225-235...and I can't bowl 2 full games before I start feeling the soreness.

    The good news is...as you strengthen your core and butt muscles...and keep your form good (meaning your back will take some of the abuse away from your knee)...the knee pain will lessen. A physical therapist can give you exercises to do that will help strengthen your (butt area) so that muscles are helping more with the force and its not all on your knee joint.

    It's a real problem for me, and many bowlers, because if you can't bend your knee...or you struggle bending your knee...you tend to not be nearly as competitive. Those guys in the PBA50 can still hit their mark and still know more about bowling than I'll ever forget...but they can't get the speed and they can't get as low as they used to...and there's very little you can do to compensate for that. And when me starts to hurt...it's almost a natural reaction to get down to where it hurts and then RISE UP as I'm releasing. Then I end up releasing on top of the ball...my revs are non-existent...I usually miss my mark right...or at the last minute over-compensate and tug it left.

    NOTE: Aslan is NOT a doctor...but he may have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
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    After reading these posts, I feel blessed to have had perfect knees my whole life. Not one problem, or even a little twinge of pain. And yes I did play sports for many years. But that being said, I'm not without issues. My left elbow is really bad right now. (thank God I'm a right handed bowler) and have back and right shoulder problems. Most people have something that bothers them.

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    Is it the outside of the knee that hurts ? Good IT band stretches will help after the pain is present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmc82 View Post
    Is it the outside of the knee that hurts ? Good IT band stretches will help after the pain is present.
    Think it's more inside but have to see next time it hurts.
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    No aches or pains tonight. Put the S10 sole on and that was much better other than falling on the lane...lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    No aches or pains tonight. Put the S10 sole on and that was much better other than falling on the lane...lol.
    Oh crap, you actually fell? Hope everything's ok...

    The adjustment can be startling. The S8 has absolutely no slide, for me. The S10 feels like a bowling shoe should.

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    It is very slick but much better on my knee. I didn't have much trouble with it once I got used to it and had confidence in it but on that shot it was a 7 pin (lefty here) and I sort of pivoted on my slide foot and it slid right out from under me. Tried catching myself but was afraid I would foul so just sort of fell to my left. My knee barely touched the floor and I caught myself with my hand so it was a graceful fall...lol. My teammates and opponents got a laugh out of it once they knew I was ok.
    But same thing here. The S8 doesn't slide at all for me and jams my knee but the S10 is a little too slick but nothing I can't deal with. I left the grippier heal on. But the 10 is much better than the 8 for me.
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    I think Bowl1820 recommended these in another post and I use this slide sole and love it. I think it's between the S8 and S10.

    https://www.bowlingball.com/products...lide-sole.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonNJ View Post
    I think Bowl1820 recommended these in another post and I use this slide sole and love it. I think it's between the S8 and S10.

    https://www.bowlingball.com/products...lide-sole.html
    Will keep that in mind. I think I will get to like the 10 after a few weeka
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    Just to update...fell again last week wearing the 10 so switched back to the 8. This week changed my approach and it was much better. Realized my issue was my timing and balance. Think after a few weeks with my new approach it'll be much better.
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