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    WHAT IF I HAVE TOO MUCH CARRY-DOWN
    Decrease the distance of the applied oil in the center of the lane leaving the pattern distance the same. This adjustment increases the buff distance
    and reduces the oil thickness at the end of the pattern.

    WHAT IF I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH HOLD
    Hold is created by the length and amount of oil in the “mid-lane” (20-32 ft.). This is done by applying oil in the mid-lane on the reverse pass of most lane machines. Lengthening the reverse application distance creates hold oil which allows the ball to more consistently guide to the breakpoint. With Brunswick’s Direct+ Conditioning
    this can be easily accomplished by adding oil to the required boards in zones that affect the mid lane during the Forward run.

    WHAT IF MY BACK ENDS ARE TOO STRONG
    Lengthen the pattern to “tone” down the ball reaction. Make sure that the conditioner application distance does not change, only the total pattern
    distance.

    WHAT IF THE HEADS HOOK
    Two things cause the heads to hook. 1. Not enough oil applied to the head area. 2. The physical condition of the heads. To increase the volume of oil In the heads, slow the machine down on the reverse pass. With Brunswick’s Direct+ oil system, during the forward run you can increase the units of oil by board in the head zone(s) to resolve this problem.

    WHAT IF I HAVE NO SWING AREA
    A lack of swing area can be caused by two things: 1. too much oil applied to the outside boards or 2. “crowned” lane topography. Reduce The amount of oil on the outside boards if there is too much. If topography is the problem, contact your professional lane resurfacer.

    WHAT IF THE MID-LANE BALL TRACK HOOKS TOO MUCH
    The mid-lane ball track can hook if there is not enough oil or if there is too much oil. This can be determined by looking at the pattern settings along with Computer Lane Monitor graphs.
    Last edited by TTREX; 11-05-2018 at 05:20 AM.

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    Since we don't have any control over how the lanes are oiled, how about just learning to adjust? Novel idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTREX View Post
    WHAT IF I HAVE TOO MUCH CARRY-DOWN
    Decrease the distance of the applied oil in the center of the lane leaving the pattern distance the same. This adjustment increases the buff distance
    and reduces the oil thickness at the end of the pattern.

    WHAT IF I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH HOLD
    Hold is created by the length and amount of oil in the “mid-lane” (20-32 ft.). This is done by applying oil in the mid-lane on the reverse pass of most lane machines. Lengthening the reverse application distance creates hold oil which allows the ball to more consistently guide to the breakpoint. With Brunswick’s Direct+ Conditioning
    this can be easily accomplished by adding oil to the required boards in zones that affect the mid lane during the Forward run.

    WHAT IF MY BACK ENDS ARE TOO STRONG
    Lengthen the pattern to “tone” down the ball reaction. Make sure that the conditioner application distance does not change, only the total pattern
    distance.

    WHAT IF THE HEADS HOOK
    Two things cause the heads to hook. 1. Not enough oil applied to the head area. 2. The physical condition of the heads. To increase the volume of oil In the heads, slow the machine down on the reverse pass. With Brunswick’s Direct+ oil system, during the forward run you can increase the units of oil by board in the head zone(s) to resolve this problem.

    WHAT IF I HAVE NO SWING AREA
    A lack of swing area can be caused by two things: 1. too much oil applied to the outside boards or 2. “crowned” lane topography. Reduce The amount of oil on the outside boards if there is too much. If topography is the problem, contact your professional lane resurfacer.

    WHAT IF THE MID-LANE BALL TRACK HOOKS TOO MUCH
    The mid-lane ball track can hook if there is not enough oil or if there is too much oil. This can be determined by looking at the pattern settings along with Computer Lane Monitor graphs.
    That appears to be copied pasted from Brunswicks "Know your 3 C's" the "ADJUSTING THE PATTERN FAQs–WHAT SHOULD I DO IF..." section. (Though it maybe included in other manuals)

    http://brunswickbowling.com/uploads/...re_0216-12.pdf

    If your just copy pasting info cite the soure where you got it from.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

    "Adjust too soon and maybe ruin one frame, adjust too late and ruin a game."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Since we don't have any control over how the lanes are oiled, how about just learning to adjust? Novel idea!
    You think like a cave man. what you said is like telling Nascar that they should race in the rain and still drive 200 mph on a completely wet track where no traction can be found and then saying....HOW ABOUT YOU LEARN TO ADUST?? NOVEL IDEA!

    Humans are in control of the lane machine, so yes there is a proper way to maintain the lanes, and oil the lanes. It is part of the science of bowling which you evidently do not understand or care to learn about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTREX View Post
    You think like a cave man. what you said is like telling Nascar that they should race in the rain and still drive 200 mph on a completely wet track where no traction can be found and then saying....HOW ABOUT YOU LEARN TO ADUST?? NOVEL IDEA!
    Please everyone try not to get personal in responses to other users posts.

    Note your nascar reference doesnt really work in this context, the drivers (bowlers) not having control of the rain (lane machine) only really have the option to adjust to the conditions or stop racing (bowling).

    Humans are in control of the lane machine, so yes there is a proper way to maintain the lanes, and oil the lanes. It is part of the science of bowling which you evidently do not understand or care to learn about.
    While The information you provided can be of interest to all, it is mainly only of use to a houses lanemen. Most all of the users here are just bowlers and dont have control of the lane machine or how the patterns are applied.

    Now the info could be used in discussions about reactions a bowler might be seeing during bowling, but you would need the question to put it in the proper context.
    Last edited by bowl1820; 11-05-2018 at 11:36 AM.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

    "Adjust too soon and maybe ruin one frame, adjust too late and ruin a game."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Please everyone try not to get personal in responses to other users posts.

    Note your nascar reference doesnt really work in this context, the drivers (bowlers) not having control of the rain (lane machine) only really have the option to adjust to the conditions or stop racing (bowling).



    While The information you provided can be of interest to all, it is mainly only of use to a houses lanemen. Most all of the users here are just bowlers and dont have control of the lane machine or how the patterns are applied.

    Now the info could be used in discussions about reactions a bowler might be seeing during bowling, but you would need the question to put it in the proper context.
    This information is something that every serious bowler should learn even if you disagree. If bowlers know the science of bowling, such as understanding proper lane maintenance procedures, then bowlers can stand up to the manager and insist he do his job by making the lane man do his job. If everyone does there job properly then the bowling centers will prosper instead of die due to poor lane conditions.

    The industry has been trying to dumb down everyone, and make bowling cheap to the center owners so they can make more profit but it is not working. Why? Because as dumb as some bowlers may be they still know which house has a good shot vs which house does not, they just don't know why?

    I posted this in the place i wanted to post it so BOWLERS would read it and learn it and maybe they would get the nerve once they know it to tell the manager at there center so he can learn it, and then maybe the lane man will learn it. Somebody needs to know this!! Someone need to be confronted!

    The problem is never solved because no one knows what the problem is. I thought that teaching this info to some that it might help someone somewhere.

    Example: Our lane man was having trouble getting the lanes to play decent. I told him the buffer brush was not working properly. He did not know this. They had it fixed and the problem was solved. If you teach people this information then they can determine what the problem is. If it is a problem with the lane machine then they can have it fixed, and the end result is that the bowlers are now happy because the lanes are now playable.

    Telling someone to adjust to lanes dressed by a broken lane machine solves nothing!! Agree or not, it is the truth.

    Sadly some lane men don't know because the center owner won't pay to have them trained, it cost to much they say. Then the owner cannot understand why he isn't making a profit...smh

    Personally I am sick of seeing bowling center owners hire restaurant managers who know nothing about bowling, to run a bowling center!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTREX View Post
    This information is something that every serious bowler should learn even if you disagree. If bowlers know the science of bowling, such as understanding proper lane maintenance procedures, then bowlers can stand up to the manager and insist he do his job by making the lane man do his job. If everyone does there job properly then the bowling centers will prosper instead of die due to poor lane conditions.
    I don't particularly disagree, If a player wants to be a student of the game it wouldn't hurt to know this or any other info about how lane maintenance works.

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

    "Adjust too soon and maybe ruin one frame, adjust too late and ruin a game."

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