new inserts and new ball discussion

[JasonNJ]

Well the other problem is I don't have any of that info. My PSO has never checked for it.

Any PSO worth his salt would check it for you if you ask him to. If he won't then find a new PSO.

[boatman37]

I might be off base here but the situation you describe sounds a lot like a buddy of mine has going. He's a big strong guy and tends to rocket the ball down the lane at 18 MPH
One of his teammates who's a high average long time bowler keeps telling him to work on rolling the ball vs throwing the ball. It sounds as if you might have the same situation , lots of speed but very little hand on the ball, the ball is flung down the lane and for the most part it just skids all the way down the lane never slowing enough to react to the lane condition. If this is the situation you can gain much more by learning to roll the ball, than by changing to throwing a new ball.

Sounds fairly accurate. About the only place I can get much hook is playing way outside where it is drier. The ball doesn't slide but more or less just rolls. Tried slowing down but didn't get the carry I did normally but it was also practice and not sure how the lanes were in comparison. Will try it again next league night.

[boatman37]

Any PSO worth his salt would check it for you if you ask him to. If he won't then find a new PSO.

I can check with him and see. I know he has the equipment to do it and watched him check it for the owner

[boatman37]

Well he put new inserts in the Black Widow Gold but in the meantime I bought a new Radical Conspiracy and had him drill it and put the inserts with the flats up. Tried it tonight and love it. Lanes were a little dry but I was getting a ton of revs compared to my usual but that was partially due to the release I was trying out.

[GrumpyCatFace]

Sounds fairly accurate. About the only place I can get much hook is playing way outside where it is drier. The ball doesn't slide but more or less just rolls. Tried slowing down but didn't get the carry I did normally but it was also practice and not sure how the lanes were in comparison. Will try it again next league night.

That’s where I was a few months ago. Try keeping your shoulder back, and cocking your wrist towards yourself a little. Then just drop the ball out onto the lane.

[boatman37]

That’s where I was a few months ago. Try keeping your shoulder back, and cocking your wrist towards yourself a little. Then just drop the ball out onto the lane.

Exactly what I did. At first I used my normal release. This was practice so there were 3 of us (all lefties) and the lanes were dry. We just bowled. Didn't care whose turn it was or what the scores were until the last game. Tried a few things. My normal release is with my hand almost completely behind the ball and go straight forward through the ball. I get too much front roll and not enough side roll, hence my high ball speed. I then turned my hand slightly in towards me. This gave me more side roll and a little less speed and added revs. Next thing I did was rotated my left shoulder back slightly and I was able to stay a little more under the ball on release (or at least thats what it felt like). Adding this helped even more. On top of that my normal line is straight up the 5 board so not much oil. I moved in to the 10 board in more oil and got a bunch more revs then. Looked like a different bowler by the end of the night. I was standing with my left foot on the 13 board (right foot about 18 board?) and threw over the 10 board and out to about the 5-7 board.
We recorded the first couple games with the Hudl Technique app but didn't get any recordings of my modified release so nothing with the higher revs. Hope to get that this Tuesday night. Gonna try to bowl another game after league and see if I can get the PSO to watch or get somebody to record. I know after we are done everybody either heads to the bar or heads home so will have to try to sucker somebody into it...lol

EDIT: I had to move in about 2 boards further to get to the pocket when I was targeting the 2nd arrow. But to add to that, when I normally throw the 2nd arrow my ball didn't go any further outside than the 10 board (if it did it wasn't by much). The other night with this new release I was going out to about the 6 board. So in actuality the ball covered quite a few more boards inside to out.

[GrumpyCatFace]

Yep, I was absolutely amazed at the difference a small change can make. And so were my teammates!

I’m actually playing inside lines now, more often than not. I didn’t think that was even possible for me.

[boatman37]

Yep, I was absolutely amazed at the difference a small change can make. And so were my teammates!

I’m actually playing inside lines now, more often than not. I didn’t think that was even possible for me.

Yep. Thats the main reason I try to always play the first arrow. Anything further into the oil and my ball wouldn't hook much. I think thats why I don't get as many strikes because my ball lost too much energy by the time it hit the pins. Will find out more Tuesday night.

Just checked one of my Hudl videos from when we first started the other night and it calculates to roughly 288 RPM. I'll try to see what it is Tuesday night and see what the difference is with my modified release.

oh...i bowled a 204 that last game with that release. 7 strikes, 3 spares, and 2 opens. i missed the 7 pin and missed the 6 pin on the other. should have made both of those and would have been in the 220's (have a 176 average now)