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    Looking at my scores my last 19 games I'm averaging 193.05 and my last 13 games I'm averaging 198.00. My leagues average is at 178.90 right now and was about 174 around early January so I'm definitely seeing improvement. When I quit in 2002 I was about 193 so that is encouraging.

    Overall in last 14 months since I returned:
    Strikes: 41%
    Spares: 54%
    Single pin spares: 66%

    Last 19 games:
    Strikes: 49%
    Spares: 58%
    Single pin spares: 76%

    So definitely seeing improvement even with my 3rd game struggles lately. Like I said earlier, pretty sure about 90% of it is fatigue and 10% lane conditions
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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
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    If you tell us one more time your average was 193 in 2002!!!!!



    J.K. (kinda)


    It does sound like you are improving. This may of been a "back to basics" year and next year you will average 193.5! Good bowling mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba809 View Post
    If you tell us one more time your average was 193 in 2002!!!!!



    J.K. (kinda)


    It does sound like you are improving. This may of been a "back to basics" year and next year you will average 193.5! Good bowling mate.
    If you had a memory like mine you would need to be reminded often...lol

    But yeah, I think you are right. I saw all the changes in releases and ball reaction and tried to mimic that and it really messed me up. Decided a few weeks ago to forget about how others are bowling and do what I know and what comes naturally to me. So far so good.
    Arsenal "15# Global Eternity Pi-45x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Xponent-60x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Zen Soul-60x4.5x40" "15# Roto Grip Idol Helios-90 x 2.25 x 45" "15# 900 Global Altered Reality-50x3.625x30" "15# Brunswick Uppercut-80x3.625x35" "15# Brunswick Igniter-70x5.5x35" "15# Raw Hammer Pearl 45x5.75x40" "15# Brunswick T-Zone"
    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
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    Well not so good tonight. I got my spinner today and took all balls back to OOB. None would hook tonight. The lanes were a little heavier than usual but it took awhile till I could find the pocket. Kept hitting light all night until the last game. As a team our scratch average is 962. Game 1 we had 1076 and lost by 28. Game 2 we had 955 and lost by 161. Game 3 had 953 and lost by 69. The other team was on fire. They had a 794, 681, 672, 648, and 567. Hard to beat that. And these guys aren't even in the top 3 as far as the highest average teams in our league.

    I still hit my average tonight with a 548 but after the way I have bowled the last 3 or 4 weeks it was a letdown.

    Arsenal "15# Global Eternity Pi-45x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Xponent-60x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Zen Soul-60x4.5x40" "15# Roto Grip Idol Helios-90 x 2.25 x 45" "15# 900 Global Altered Reality-50x3.625x30" "15# Brunswick Uppercut-80x3.625x35" "15# Brunswick Igniter-70x5.5x35" "15# Raw Hammer Pearl 45x5.75x40" "15# Brunswick T-Zone"
    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    Well I was a little sore after the tournament Sunday. Legs were sore, thumb had a crack and ring finger was sore. Left the 500 on the Kingpin and 2000 or the Conspiracy from Sunday. I really liked how they were rolling but my thumb kept sticking in the Conspiracy so about the 8th frame of game 1 I put it away. Used the Kingpin the rest of the night and was happy with it until the transition then I struggled. Game 1 started great then my thumb must have got a little bigger cause it got worse and I tugged a few shots. Ended game 1 with a 180. Started game 2 with a 5 bagger and ended with a 214 as the transition hit. Game 3 was a mess. 158 and that was only because I had 2 strikes and a 9 count in the 10th.

    I really like these finishes on these balls so plan to put them on the spinner this week and do it right. Teammate had a 679 tonight. Going to have the PSO open up my thumb hole slightly next week on the Conspiracy and hopefully my sore fingers are better.

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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    Well at the tournament the lanes were so slick with the 47' Scorpion everyone was scuffing their stuff up between qualifying rounds. I hit the Kingpin with 500 and the Conspiracy with 2000 and liked the way they reacted last Tuesday for league so tonight I put them on the spinner and did them right with those same grits. Also hit the Rhino with 2000 and the Motiv polish. I only use that ball for 7 pins so figured I'd slick it up a little more. It was at 500 polished.

    Let you know tomorrow night how it works.
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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    Well I liked how the balls rolled tonight but I struggled. I was hitting my mark almost every shot but just missing the pocket by the smallest of a fraction each time. Struggled in the 1st 2 games but picked it up in the last game. Started with the Conspiracy and kept hitting light. Made adjustments then started hitting high. Changed to the Kingpin near the end of the 1st game and same thing. Decided to move further outside near the end of the 2nd game and that was it. I had been targeting the 7-8 board at the arrows but moved out to the 5 and the ball went straight to the pocket. Just wish I would have found that earlier. We got smacked pretty hard tonight so we weren't having fun. 1st game we lost by almost 200. We were about 100 below our average and they were 100 over theirs. 2nd game we were 60 over our average and still lost by 45. 3rd game we were 10 over our average and lost by 60. Their guys all average between 200 and 210 and 1 guy had a 760 and another had a 728. Tough to beat that. We were 1st half champs but this half seems like every team we face bowls their best of the season.

    So I had a 171, 172 and 195. My average coming in was 179.25. Now its 179.26...lol.

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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    On another note my spare conversion has been much better. My last 15 league games (not counting the tournament on the 47' Scorpion pattern) my single pin conversion is 87% (35/40) and my overall spare % is 63% (55/86)

    Compare that to my overall league stats for this season and here is that: Single pin 69% (141/203) and overall is 56% (268/474)

    My most common is the 7 pin with my season average at 30/66 (45.45%) and my last 15 games is 10/13 (76.92%)
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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    So tonight was tough. Started the first game with a very tight line. Miss by a hair and it would be either high or light. A couple frames in I moved my line out closer to the 5-6 board and started hitting the pocket consistently but couldn't get the carry and had no movement on the ball. Near the end of the game I started tucking my pinky and that changed everything. 6 of my next 7 shots were pocket strikes then started coming in light. Assuming the oil was getting carried down? We had 5 lefties on our pair tonight but I was the only one that far outside. Made minor adjustments and kept game 2 clean for a 224. Last game was miserable. Started hitting lighter and either struck or split the first 6 frames. At that point it got worse. Opened the rest of the game missing easy spares for a 140. Game 1 was a 169.
    Used the Conspiracy all night. After I moved to the 5-6 board and tucked my pinky I only moved about 1/2 board the rest of the night and fine tuned by moving forward or backward a couple inches. At one point I tried moving in closer to the 10 board but got no carry there either.

    Game 1: 169

    Game 2: 224

    Game 3: 140

    So as for our opponents performance when they bowl us....yep. they did it again. Game 1 we were 42 below our average but they beat us by 93 so they were about 50 over their average. Game 2 we were 54 over our average and still lost by 27. Game 3 we were 19 under our average but they fell apart so we got that one. But this has been the story of this 1/2 for us. Our opponents bowl way over their heads against us.
    Last edited by boatman37; 03-27-2019 at 12:28 AM.
    Arsenal "15# Global Eternity Pi-45x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Xponent-60x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Zen Soul-60x4.5x40" "15# Roto Grip Idol Helios-90 x 2.25 x 45" "15# 900 Global Altered Reality-50x3.625x30" "15# Brunswick Uppercut-80x3.625x35" "15# Brunswick Igniter-70x5.5x35" "15# Raw Hammer Pearl 45x5.75x40" "15# Brunswick T-Zone"
    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    Well might have found an issue tonight. Started out good and was spot on until the 5th frame of game 1 then it fell apart. Had 118 in the 5th frame and ended with a 181. Game 2 wasn't any better. Struggled all game then realized I was throwing over 1 MPH faster than I was at the start of the night. Kept coming in light and tried adjusting but no luck. At the start of game 3 I slowed my ball back down and started hitting good again. Game 3 started getting strikes and covering spares again.

    We bowled the last place team and they were a guy short so they had a -30 deficit right off that bat. Game 1 they bowled 25 over their average. Game 2 they were 50 under and game 3 they were 50 over (this is with the -30 penalty). In the end we lost game 1 but won the last 2 to take 5 of 7 points.

    So noticed that when I start to struggle I subconsciously start throwing harder which snowballs my issues. I need to work on this speed issue. Game 2 I threw hard every frame and that was my worst for strikes and spares. I had noticed before that my speed would creep up but hadn't correlated it to my worst games. Lately my 3rd game had been my worst so I was blaming it on transition or fatigue but tonight I slowed down in game 3 and it ended up being my best of the night.

    Used the Conspiracy all night. Current average = 179.29

    Last edited by boatman37; 04-03-2019 at 08:07 AM.
    Arsenal "15# Global Eternity Pi-45x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Xponent-60x4.5x40" "15# 900 Global Zen Soul-60x4.5x40" "15# Roto Grip Idol Helios-90 x 2.25 x 45" "15# 900 Global Altered Reality-50x3.625x30" "15# Brunswick Uppercut-80x3.625x35" "15# Brunswick Igniter-70x5.5x35" "15# Raw Hammer Pearl 45x5.75x40" "15# Brunswick T-Zone"
    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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