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    For what it's worth, it's happened 2 or 3 times this year to me, I'm not a cranker/2 hander by any means... more of a mid speed mid rev bowler (350ish rpm) who plays about 15-6 laydown to breakpoint on a THS as my benchmark line. So not common, but it can and does happen from time to time.

    Again, for what it's worth that means an immediate move/ball change, which tends to eliminate it.

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    [QUOTE=Aslan;173017]In MCRunner's scenario...then yes...I suppose it is possible. But realize what has to happen:
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    1) You need a bowler (or more likely group of bowlers)...throwing plastic/urethane inside of the breakpoint board (8-board in his example).
    Why does it have to be inside of the breakpoint? the ball rotates as it progresses down the lane basically giving it the ability to deposit oil at any point that passes over.

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    2) This bowler or these bowlers need to be able to throw so precisely...that they essentially only push oil up that tiny 1-3 board area.
    Your trying to build a pattern of this instead of realizing your dealing with a change occurrence. Each time a ball passes over an area their is a chance that oil could be deposited their that spot may only be 1/2 inch long and a quarter inch wide. What are the odds that you hit it? Even on a shot that appears to hit the same spot on the lane you may avoid or hit it. The ore the lane has bowled on the more likely you are to hit one of those spots.

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    3) They would need an opponent that is a cranker or 2-hander...that has enough revs to cross the 11-13 board line...significantly up the lane...and bounce the ball off the 8-board.
    I see kids bowling 2 handed with 8 pound balls that hit every board on the lane

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    It's a hard discussion to have...because the very idea of "carrydown" is disputed by some experts and promoted by others. I believe carrydown exists...which is why I have a 3rd ball in my arsenal to deal with it. But, I struggle with the concept of getting a definitive enough amount of it to an area where you could honestly creates a skid/hook/skid/hook scenario the way the OP described.
    Personally I don't believe carry down exists much in the modern game. I do question if the resurgence in urethane might cause a resurgence of the issue myself. Modern balls don't react much to the small amounts of oil they leave on a lane but you bring plastic or urethane into the conversation the rules change. If you've been bowling 20 years+ you've seen carry down and the motion described
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    Why does it have to be inside of the breakpoint? the ball rotates as it progresses down the lane basically giving it the ability to deposit oil at any point that passes over.
    Because the bowling ball does not pick up oil...hold it for some random amount of time...then make the decision to deposit it. It simply "pushes" it.

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    Personally I don't believe carry down exists much in the modern game. I do question if the resurgence in urethane might cause a resurgence of the issue myself. Modern balls don't react much to the small amounts of oil they leave on a lane but you bring plastic or urethane into the conversation the rules change. If you've been bowling 20 years+ you've seen carry down and the motion described
    Oh yeah...I definitely think the resurgence of urethane revitalizes the question of carrydown.
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