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    Hey everyone. Newb here from Kc. Thanks for having me, I used to bowl in leagues as I was growing up. Never had any real equipment for me. Always second hand or hand me down stuff that was never actually set up for me. I am going to get into some casual fun leagues and see how it goes. I was looking at a league here that is a 2 ball league where you get the 2 balls drilled for you and those are the only 2 that are used for the league. They are using the Hustle ink and a halo pearl.

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    Not sure how I'd use a Hustle Ink and Halo Pearl combination.

    Do you start with the solid coverstock/more surface of the weaker Hustle? Then transition to the longer, polished pearl Halo.

    Or, do you throw some surface on the Halo Pearl...knock some surface off the Hustle...and try to use the stronger, surfaced Halo with it's lower RG...then ball down to a much weaker Hustle with the surface taken off of it?

    That's one of the problems with "free ball" leagues...you end up with two balls that you might not really want or really want to use together.

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    I honestly don't know jack about surfaces and what to look for. They both seem pretty aggressive movement haver's for sure. We can change the surface though so that may be something to think about, if i knew what the hell i was looking at. hahahahah

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    Both balls come in 1500 grit polished finished so Aslan or some other well knowledge person teach me about finishes and what it will do to the action of the ball? I assume the high grit is smoother finished which would decrease the spin action?

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    I would certainly go with Halo Pearl first and maybe knock the polish off of it to maybe a 2000-3000 grit surface. Then leaving the Hustle INK at the out of box surface finish.

    Halo Pearl will be good for beginning games when on fresh oil. The dull/lower grit surface will get the ball to read a bit sooner through the heads and then into the middle of the lane before it makes it's move to the pocket. Then I would transition to Hustle.

    Both balls are really nice choices.
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    I would 'sort of' agree with VDub.

    I guess if I had the choice...I'd take the Halo Pearl down to 2000 matte. You may need more/less depending on rev rate/lane conditons. That should give you a ball that is strong enough for a typical fresh shot. I don't think the OOB polished pearl is going to turn soon enough.

    I'd then take some surface off the Hustle and make it my ball down option. Probably 500/1000/1500 then Storm Step 2...no resin polish.

    I don't like the setup because you're taking a ball designed to go long and snap...and trying to make it have a controllable, earlier hook. Then, you're taking a solid cover ball and trying to make it go longer. Seems like you're working against what the balls are designed to do. BUT...I don't think you'd get enough performance out of the Hustle Ink if that's the first ball out of the bag....unless we're talking a high rev rate and/or dry or wood conditions. And if you don't get enough (or any) carrydown...and switch to the Halo Pearl...it's gonna over-react.

    So, I'd take my chances with Halo Pearl at 2000 matte then Hustle Ink at 1500/Step 2.

    But I'd also defer to VDub given he's practically a professional...AND he has a man crush on Rotogrip...where as I'm more of an entry-level middle school talent and thus far haven't found a Rotogrip ball I would rather throw than give away.
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    Balls are supposed to be ready Friday for pick-up, so i will roll them and see how they react and go from there i guess. I was looking at the comparator on the site and both in review and the hustle looks like a late freight train going into the pocket.


    this stuff is all new to me. The last ball i had was a blue rhino matte

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    So here's the un-realistic guy in the group. I'd grab the Halo Pearl, and rev it. I'm a huge fan of late-breaking equipment, which is most like why all my solid stuff ends up polished. If you throw a decent amount of speed and rev, this is my suggestion, FWIW.
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    I know a few people who have the Hustle Ink and to me that's a good benchmark ball. It's very controllable and works well on most conditions and I would have said that would be the ball you start with. The Halo Pearl looks a lot snappier to me so that would be a ball I play later in transition when I have to move in and trust the ball is going to be able to snap back to the pocket. As for adjusting surface, I would say throw both balls first and then adjust accordingly, the OOB surface may be perfect for you and your lane conditions.

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    ya i am going to try them when they get drilled this week. i normally roll in the 15-17 mph range i haven't ever seen my rev speed so i don't know that one.

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