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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    He didn't have much info on it but thought that might be a good one for me to add later to replace the BWG.
    Please tell me that I'm not the only one who sees this as a blatant attempt to sell a future release without, admittedly, having much info on it. Find yourself a PSO who cares about your bowling more than his bottom line!
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    I've been using the Triax spare system. I'll use a plastic ball 99% of the time to convert spares. It works pretty well for me. http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/ima...are_System.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    just wondering if my balls are just used up. they both have at least 100 games on them and neither are behaving the way they used to.
    Something to try here would be a little probably long over do maintenance on them. Having them de-oiled and resurfaced can breathe new life into a ball.

    Somethings to note also is, That a new ball (or any ball for that matter) doesn't fix problems with a players physical game (Now a having a grip fixed can help with some problems). At best it would just be a bandage, at worst it could make things worse.

    A plastic ball though is always a good investment, Not just for shooting spares. There are times when you might need that ball to keep yourself in the game. The lanes burned up or your totally lost. You can pick up the plastic, go back to the bare basics and grind it out.

    And if your throwing your Rhino "pretty straight" now, the only feel difference you have is the plastic is even straighter.

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    When I said he didn't have much info what he said before that was that he thought it would be an asymm pearl but he was in the middle of league bowling when he told me this and didn't have the info in front of him and was going off memory. I was the first to mention that it sounded similar to the BWG and he thought so too.

    I did mention de-oiling to him and he said they didn't have one but was hoping to get one soon. I don't even know of any other pro shops around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    I did mention de-oiling to him and he said they didn't have one but was hoping to get one soon. I don't even know of any other pro shops around.
    If there are no shops around with a de-oiler you can do it yourself there are several DIY ways. some are:

    The Hot water & dawn method, which is basically soaking the ball in hot warm with a little dawn soap. Some put the ball in a dishwasher (Just don't use the dish dryer!).

    A moded food dehydrator, which is what I have.

    Or just take a cardboard box, sit the ball in it. cut a hole in the side and stick a hairdryer in the hole set on low and let the hot air blow around the ball (Just don't blow the air directly on the ball) and wipe it every now and then .

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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    I could do that. A former teammate told me he just left his in the car on a hot day...lol.

    Been watching some spare shooting videos and getting a little confidence back. Started realizing I really didn't have a system. Started thinking for a 3 pin sometimes I move 2 boards and sometimes 3 boards. 4 pin I sometimes went cross alley and sometimes just moved my feet right about 3 boards. No real consistency. In my former bowling life I remember telling somebody I never had to think about spares. It was all memorization and didn't have to think about where to stand. My spare shooting use to be very good. My strike shooting wasn't as good though. Going to start using the Rhino for all of my spares until I get a plastic ball. I have it at 3000 now. I'll hit it with a 4000 and maybe polish.
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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
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    So grabbed a cardboard box that my spinner came in and cut a hole in the end. Put a cutting board style piece of plastic in there as a diverter so the heat isn't blowing directly on the ball and put the Kingpin in there with the heat gun in the hole on low. Checked it after about 2 minutes and the ball was soaked. Checked it a few more times and every time it is soaked. Keep wiping it off each time. So about how long should I leave it in there? The ball is very warm but not too hot to touch it.
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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    So grabbed a cardboard box that my spinner came in and cut a hole in the end. Put a cutting board style piece of plastic in there as a diverter so the heat isn't blowing directly on the ball and put the Kingpin in there with the heat gun in the hole on low. Checked it after about 2 minutes and the ball was soaked. Checked it a few more times and every time it is soaked. Keep wiping it off each time. So about how long should I leave it in there? The ball is very warm but not too hot to touch it.
    A HEAT GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! Even on low that is too hot, I said a hair dryer!!!

    As for how long you do it, it would be until the oil wasnt coming out.

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    I stuck a thermometer in there and it was around 140-150. I had to open the top of the box to keep the temps down. From what i read online 130-140 is about where you want. My next step is to cut a hole in the side of the box to keep it cooler
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    Rev Rate about 270 @ about 15.5 MPH at the pins* High Game: 290 - High Series: 733. PAP: 5 1/8"x1" up; tilt 20*, rotation 75*. YTD highs - 290-733
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    I stuck a thermometer in there and it was around 140-150. I had to open the top of the box to keep the temps down. From what i read online 130-140 is about where you want. My next step is to cut a hole in the side of the box to keep it cooler
    Yes 150 degrees in most articles is considered the highest temp. and not to go over it. With around 125-130 being a good range.

    A vent at the top of the box would be a good idea, that way as the hot air comes in at the bottom (assuming you placed the heat source at the bottom side of the box) It can spiral up and around the ball and out through the vent. If you leave a flap at the vent, you could kind of regulate the temp. (like a bbq vent).

    Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798

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