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    So haven't thrown my Conspiracy in awhile but started the night with it. Noticed the track was around the bottom of the ball about 4-5" from the thumbhole and around the bottom 1/3 of the ball (if the finger holes are at the top). Never saw that before and when I switched balls it was a normal track. I only used the Conspiracy for a few frames and didn't like it so put it away for the night.

    Any thoughts on the weird track? The flare was about 2"
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    I know the track is sometimes different from ball to ball (assuming the same drill). I have a full roller and my track is always between fingers and thumb and usually has the same angle through the T line. A track that is closer to fingers tends to go long and flip harder, closer to the thumb is early reading and gives more of a rounded shape. Maybe the pin to CG distance is a factor too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by six6guy View Post
    I know the track is sometimes different from ball to ball (assuming the same drill). I have a full roller and my track is always between fingers and thumb and usually has the same angle through the T line. A track that is closer to fingers tends to go long and flip harder, closer to the thumb is early reading and gives more of a rounded shape. Maybe the pin to CG distance is a factor too.
    Not sure. All of mine are drilled very close to the same. I just have never seen a track in this area before. Imagine the ball setting in a cup with the fingers/thumbhole facing up towards the ceiling. The track was about 2" up from the bottom of the ball the whole way around. Really nowhere near the finger or thumbholes. I threw the ball 3 times in warmups and it went right to the pocket and struck so nothing looked odd about it. Being all black it is hard to tell exactly what it is doing going down the lane.

    Just watched Mo's video here > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwD...ature=youtu.be

    And it looked sort of close to where he drew the line for the track at the pins but it had some flare to it. That might have been the track I was seeing but I could not see any other track. It didn't look like there was oil on the track, just kind of like a wear mark with barely visible oil on it but no other tracks anywhere. So that mystery might have been solved...lol. Either way the ball stopped working after warmups so I switched to the Squatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatman37 View Post
    So haven't thrown my Conspiracy in awhile but started the night with it. Noticed the track was around the bottom of the ball about 4-5" from the thumbhole and around the bottom 1/3 of the ball (if the finger holes are at the top). Never saw that before and when I switched balls it was a normal track. I only used the Conspiracy for a few frames and didn't like it so put it away for the night.

    Any thoughts on the weird track? The flare was about 2"
    If the track on the Conspiracy is on a different part of the ball than it was before, Then you were most likely releasing it differently than you were before when you used it for some reason Or you miss read where the track actually was on the ball now or then.

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    You can put a small piece of bright colored tape onto the ball so you can see it reacting to the lane better. I use electrical tape from Pep Boys. For a full roller I put the tape near the thumb but for a 3/4 roller it might be better closer to fingers. Anyway, mark the ball in question and also mark a ball with a normal track, then give them each a few rolls and watch. Maybe a friend can help video tape the balls travel down the lane for you.

    If it really is a weird track then I suspect a difference in the core flip area. Not that that is a bad thing, just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by six6guy View Post
    If it really is a weird track then I suspect a difference in the core flip area. Not that that is a bad thing, just different.
    What in the world is "the core flip area"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    What in the world is "the core flip area"?
    I don't know if he means this, But I seen the term "flip area" in regard to a ball once or twice before. It was referring to the mass bias (MB) placement in relation to the track and VAL

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    I saw the same track last night on one of my other balls. Pretty sure it's what Mo described in the video I linked. It looks like the track at the pins. Lanes were really dry again last night so hard to see the 'normal' track
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