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    I'm not suggesting anyone risk their safety for bowling but just that we are already struggling and a 60 pin per game penalty just makes it nearly impossible. But even if they were there and bowled their average we still probably would have lost all 3, or at least 2 of 3. We lost game 1 by 217, game 2 by 43, and game 3 by 90. Game 1 they rolled 1113 scratch. Their average is 990 so yeah, 123 over average is tough to overtake
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    It seems that our team also has an epidemic of teams rolling way above their average when bowling against us. I believe, though, that it is a combination of things in our case. First, our team is consistently in the top 2 on our league which acts as a motivation for opponents to try harder when bowling against us. We have regularly seen opposing team members have season highs when bowling against us. Second, one of our own team members is obsessed with analyzing the standings and will get in their own head all night about how many wins are needed, what the other team is doing, etc. Couple that with some ringing corner pins or carrydown issues and it is a perfect storm for them to tank their own game.

    One of the secrets to bowling success is to generally ignore what everyone else is doing and simply bowl against yourself. Only worry about you and your game. You cannot control how the other bowlers are bowling, so there is no point in getting wrapped up in how well [or how bad] they may be bowling. When blocking out all of the nonsense and silly drama going on around you, it lets you concentrate and focus better on your own game. You can still be supportive of your teammates, but don't get involved in discussions about timing, release, rotation, too many corner pins, too many splits, missing this, missing that, blah blah blah. It can really start to mess with your mind and throw off your game.

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    We get that as well - although we tend to average in the middle of the pack or a bit lower. We attribute it to those trying to bowl against my father-in-law (87, averages 170 but talks a TON of happy crap) and myself (who doesn't talk crap, but for some reason everyone wants to beat me)

    You can see that we score mid-pack, but the score AGAINST is quite a bit higher. Go figure. LOL

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    Yeah my wife has only been bowling for a few months and has a 105 average. I know that hurts us too as the max handicap is 85 so the breakeven is about 136ish. It is 90% of 230 handicap so we are losing 30 pins a game there too. But she is trying to understand how everything works and keeps asking 'well what if that guy opens' or 'what scores do we need'. I tell her I'm not worried about him or how much we need, I just bowl the highest I can.

    But yeah all through my career I have been on competitive teams until this year. Granted we weren't 'great' last year either but we were middle of the road. Up until last year I think every team I have been on has been a contender for the championship (or at least still had a chance near the end). Not that I am great (obviously you guys have seen my struggles...lol) but it's just how it has worked out. This year there are 2 teams that couldn't beat a middle school team and we are one of them.
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    Getting on a reliable team can be tough if you don't bring in your own full team. When I join a new league or have to go to another team on a league due to people leaving/quitting, I always go to the center and ask to see the current roster and available open spots so I can see who is on what team. This has saved me a few times from being placed on teams with bowlers that have reputations as either troublemakers, unreliable, or flat-out despised at the center.

    You need to work on getting that 30 pin penalty for a blind score changed. That is just overly excessive! Is this a huge prize fund league or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryster View Post
    Getting on a reliable team can be tough if you don't bring in your own full team. When I join a new league or have to go to another team on a league due to people leaving/quitting, I always go to the center and ask to see the current roster and available open spots so I can see who is on what team. This has saved me a few times from being placed on teams with bowlers that have reputations as either troublemakers, unreliable, or flat-out despised at the center.

    You need to work on getting that 30 pin penalty for a blind score changed. That is just overly excessive! Is this a huge prize fund league or something?
    Not sure I'd say huge cause I don't have anything to compare it to. IIRC there was about $17,000 in the prize fund last year but can't remember for sure. It will be lower this year because we have alot less bowlers. I think we had 20 teams (5 man teams) last year and this year we have 11
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    That seems like an average prize fund for a handicap league, so nothing crazy there. That 30 pin per game penalty still blows my mind. Never experienced anything like that in 25 years of league bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryster View Post
    That seems like an average prize fund for a handicap league, so nothing crazy there. That 30 pin per game penalty still blows my mind. Never experienced anything like that in 25 years of league bowling.
    It has been 30 pins since I started in 2018. Not sure who or why but it's the same for everyone so it is what it is.
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    This is getting old. Bowled against a middle of the road team that only had 4 guys so they had to use a blind score which is a 30 pin per game penalty and they still crushed their averages. Not sure if 2 of them haven't been sandbagging or not. I was shocked tonight to see that all 4 that were there were all averaging in the 180's as I knew 2 of them were much better than that. Just checked and in March when we shut down 1 was at 207 and the other at 199. They were at 186 and 183 tonight. Every week our opponents just crush their averages. And I mean I don't think any team has had an off night against us this year. We beat our team average the first 2 games but they crushed theirs, and that is with a 30 pin penalty.

    Scratch scores (us and them):
    Our team average was 837 and theirs was 900
    Game 1: 861 1003
    Game 2: 791 992
    Game 3: 835 897

    First game we beat our average by 24 but they beat theirs by 103 (with a 30 pin penalty). Game 2 we were 46 under our average but they were 92 over theirs. Game 3 we were 2 under our average and they were 3 under theirs.

    Just frustrating. I struggled all night. Couldn't string anything together. Spares were so-so but only managed 13 strikes tonight.

    I'm thinking we are done for the year after our governor speaks tomorrow. My wife is ready for it to be over. She is frustrated with all the losing. And it's not that we are bowing that bad just that our opponents always seem to have their best night of the year against us. Even if we beat our averages by a reasonable amount we would still lose.

    Tonight was my worst strike night in the last 8 weeks.
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    so interesting revelation. The team we bowled last night that has a member that was about 210 last year and was 186 last night...well he is listed twice on their roster with different spellings on the name. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose but just the way the software does it. He was listed last night using his lower average so got more handicap. His one average listed was 208 (18 games) and 186 (9 games). When you combine those his average would be roughly 200 so with a 90% of 230 handicap his handicap should have been about 27 where last night they had his lower average on the score sheet giving him a handicap of 39. We lost game 3 by 11 so if that had been accurate we should have won game 3 by 1 pin. I know none of this was intentional and likely nobody realized the handicap error. There is another bowler in our league listed twice also with 2 different averages.

    Just the way our luck has been. Yeah we can bring it up and they MIGHT fix it but then they'd have to go back until it happened and change everyones results and i don't think they will do that. and we'd still be in next to last place and just get people mad at us for being crybabies I'm sure
    Arsenal "15# Brunswick Uppercut" "15# Brunswick Igniter" "15# Radical Squatch Pearl" "15# Radical Conspiracy" "15# Brunswick Kingpin" "15# Hammer Black Widow Gold" "15# Brunswick Rhino Black Pearl" "15# Brunswick T-Zone"
    Rev Rate about 325 @ about 16 MPH at the pins* High Game: 279 - High Series: 725
    Oh, and LEFTY!!!
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