if the pin is 3-4 inches i say the Rico drilling, have 2 balls drilled with it, i LOVE it
Hi. I am look to get my father's Brunswick Wild Card redrilled. Which layout should it be drilled, considering my "specs":
16mph
200rpm stroker
PAP : 4 1/4 over and 5/8 up from my center of grip
Here are the different driller patterns available:
http://www.bowlingball.com/brunswick...lf=search#tab6
Thanks!
if the pin is 3-4 inches i say the Rico drilling, have 2 balls drilled with it, i LOVE it
If it is your only ball, do not Rico it. Although the Rico is a decent layout, it uses up a lot of energy before it gets to the pins. I would suggest a 4.5" pin with a 4" mass bias. That will be a stong layout for you, even though you don't have a lot of revs on the ball. I would put the pin below the fingers for sure. Due to the lack of revs and decent ball speed, I definately would make sure to pick a strong layout with the pin below the fingers to make sure the ball will reach its full potential. As for the layouts that they offer, those are simply suggestions. Don't feel like any ball limits the amount of layouts to just a couple choices. They just can't write down every possibility. Good luck!
Daniel Mareina
Storm Staff Member
Bowling Center Manager/Pro Shop Operator/Bowling Coach
I searched on the web to see what were the comments about the rico layout. Here is what I read. First thing, it is made for high rev player and I don't. Second thing, it seems that with that layout, the track of the ball is really near the thumb. Right now, My ball tracks near the thumb (½ inche). So, I don't think that I should choose that king of layout.
@DanielMareina : Could you suggest me one from the list on that site: http://www.bowlingball.com/brunswick...lf=search#tab6
You should really sit down with your local pro shop to figure out what would be the best layout for you.
One thing you left off your info is "what do you want the ball to do?" " what kind of condition are you wanting to use the ball on?' the type of layout isn't just determined by your spec's, but also by what your wanting the ball to do.
Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
"Talent without training is nothing." Luke Skywalker
Thanks for these informations. I know that I could sit down with my pro shop to check what would be the best layout. The problem is that I absolutely know that if don't go see him with special instructions, he will only plug and redrill the thumb without asking any other questions. It is why I want more info on drilling.
So, if I can just recall the main info:
Left handed
180-200 rpm
16 mph
high track
medium oil lanes
PAP : 4 1/4 over and 5/8 up from my center of grip
Brunswick Wild Card
What I am wanting the ball to do: I know that because I am a low rpm stroker, I can't get the ball to hook a lot, but I want the ball to be drilled so that I can get the best reaction of it.
I agree with danielm and given the layouts on your link. It would be around the high track layout in layouts 1 or 2.
And given your slower speed you might want to go with a smooth surface like about 4000 siaair finish.
Last edited by bowl1820; 11-15-2010 at 08:55 PM.
Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
"Talent without training is nothing." Luke Skywalker
Out of the layouts on that page, The number 2 layout is your best option. Because of your lower revs, I would suggest making it a 4.5" pin length instead of 5". I almost never drill a ball from one of those specs that they suggest, but number 2 is the closest to what I would choose. I could draw the layout with your specs on a ball and take a picture for you if you need to show your pro shop guy exactly what you want. If you want me to do that, just send me a private message with your email address and I will send it out.
Daniel Mareina
Storm Staff Member
Bowling Center Manager/Pro Shop Operator/Bowling Coach
I took a picture of the Wild Card and of my Storm Jolt. What can you tell me about how these are drilled? Don't forget that I am left handed.
I know the Wild Card is sanded, but I have the intention of polishing it back to stock finish.
Both Layouts are almost the same. They both are short pins (about 3"-3 3/4") and both are at or just below the fingers. These layouts are meant to hook in the backend of the lane, and the short pin usually will cause a ball to unload all its stored energy at once, so it is more of a skid/flip layout. That layout isn't bad at all, but can be slightly less predictable, and with your lower revs, the ball may not actually flip soon enough to get good ball reaction. The good side of things is that when you plug and redrill the ball, it will not roll over the top of the old holes. Most pro shop guys will get it almost smooth, but it is hard to get it just right and it isn't the same surface as the original ball, so rolling over it isn't good. I will take a picture of the layout I propose and send it to you by tomorrow.
Daniel Mareina
Storm Staff Member
Bowling Center Manager/Pro Shop Operator/Bowling Coach
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