New Ball

[aed2784]

I was just recently given the Virtual Gravity by a friend. I have been using the 2Fast and it has been working well. I know that the Gravity has a better back end reaction and is used for heavy oil. I needed a ball like this for sport shots and tournaments because of the different patterns. I am a little unsure of how to use this ball though. Any tips?

[DaveAyotte]

There is a pretty serious difference between the 2 balls. The 2fast is a low-mid performance, and the VG has a lot more potential.

First off - did you already get the ball fitted, or fixed to fit you? I guess there is a slight (and I do mean slight) possibility that you and your friend have the same exact fit, but I would still have it checked by a pro-shop just to make sure. Even if it's just a size off on the thumb, it could mean all the difference in the world, and it's only like 10-15$ to fix.

Second - I assume this is the original VG that storm released a few years ago? If so, while you're at the pro-shop, you may want to have it bled out, so that the ball is as close to NIB condition as possible. This will give you the reaction that it's intended for.

Last - with the above being said, granted everyone's game/release/etc is different - but check this link out. It will give you a starting point as to home much of a difference the 2 balls have, and how much you need to move.

http://www.theultimatebowlingguide.t...-anthony-pepe/

[aed2784]

Thankss for the advise Dave! I am relatively new to bowling in terms of the technical aspects like what you have listed above. I did plan on having my pro shop fit the ball time my specs and the ball definitely needs new grips. Yes, it is the original VG by storm. I know it's a bit older, but hey, if it will work the way I want it to, and judging by the reviews I've seen the ball can really slam the pins, there will be no need to drop 250 on a new one like I was going to.

Anyway, I will definitely bring up the suggestions you have made to my pro shop when I get it re-sized. Thanks again!

[DaveAyotte]

No worries, glad I could help. Was there anything I could clarify for you on?

[DaveAyotte]

also, never underestimate second hand bowling balls. As a matter of fact, I just acquired my friend's used Second Dimension. We have the same span, but I have a much smaller thumb - so as I mentioned, just a 10 dollar fix. As far as "bleeding out" it's just a special over they put it in, that doesn't get so hot as to warp the resin. I do this myself - but would never recommend anyone else to try. My oven goes down to 175. Then I stick a wooden spoon in the door so it stays open a crack and never gets that warm for a prolonged period of time. after 15 minutes, it gets enough oil out of the ball where you can see a noticeable difference in reaction. (In my experience anyway). Pro shops wouldn't charge you much for this service, and if they mess it up - at least you get a new ball out of it. I've seen balls split in half from this too - so, again I don't recommend doing it yourself

[aed2784]

That would never be something I tried myself. As I said, I am just startig to understand the technical mechanics of bowling and the equipment. I have been bowling for about 10 years on and off, but didn't get really serious until last year. I was going to ask you what you meant exaclty by "bleeding out" but you pretty much covered it in your last post. I will ask my pro shop to do so when they fix the finger positions and re-grip. I am going to throw the ball this Saturday just to see what it does for me seeing as how the finger positions aren't that far off from mine. Thank you for all your help!

[striker12]

ok i got 1 thing to add to this you sead earlyer about a ball that will do good on sport patterns that are different i see how u want a new ball but no need...main thing is the layout if you got a ball drilled for length with sharp backend or strong arc then on heavy oil and long oil it will be abit harder to get the ball to mvoe on soo you would have to play streght up 10 and with alot of revs and slower speed then revs soo your ball can catch soo if u want a ball for heavy oils and for longer oil get one drilled for massive hook witch is what i got i got 2 of each of my bowling balls and they are drilled different but my freeze i have i got 4 of them all drilled different soo i can bowl on any oil pattern but i got avg speed and high revs my rev rate is from 400-550 have not checked it out yet i have changed abit with abit slower revs my rev rate use to be 650

[aed2784]

So Striker, you are saying that you don't necessarily need a different ball for longer patterns, just the same ball drilled differently for more back end reaction? What about different cores and cover stocks?

[bowl1820]

So Striker, you are saying that you don't necessarily need a different ball for longer patterns, just the same ball drilled differently for more back end reaction? What about different cores and cover stocks?

When it comes to a balls reaction.

The coverstock and surface prep represents the majority of how a ball reacts on the lane.

Different cores simply speaking affect the shape of the balls path down the lane. Symmetrical cores are typically smoother , more arc like. While Asymmetrical cores will be more angular, hockey stick like. Also things like the RG and Differential affect how the ball reads the lane. Low RG & High Diff. for oily, High RG & Low Diff. for dry lanes.

Layouts basically affect how far down the lane the ball goes, before it reacts. High pin positions (above fingers) go farther down the lane, Low pins (below fingers) react earlier. Also how far away the pin is from the Pap is basically the hook factor, how much flare the ball will have.

Now as for having several of the same ball with different layouts, that's one school of thought and there are plenty that do it. I know a guy who bowled the regional tour. He had all of the same ball, but with layouts with minor differences ( mainly pin to pap distances). That worked for him.

Now me I think that kind of limits you, unless you good at making adjustments in other areas. I'm more the school of basically the same layout, but with different coverstocks and cores and surfaces.

I think IMO that it can limit you

[DaveAyotte]

i got 2 of each of my bowling balls and they are drilled different but my freeze i have i got 4 of them all drilled different soo i can bowl on any oil pattern

So, are you implying that you have 4 Columbia Freezes?