Me vs MICHAEL

[billf]

The VG Nano is a heavy oil ball so probably as the oil breaks down the ball could be losing some if it's energy before going through the pocket. I can't find any useful info about the undefeated at that moment to get you a good answer. My guess is the Undefeated is a medium oil ball and can withstand the lanes a while longer than the heavy oil ball.

If you move BOTH feet and target right it will change the entry angle without going brooklyn, most times.

[MICHAEL]

Damn I learn a lot on this website!!! I think I am falling in love with it!!!! (... work in progress!!!!

[MICHAEL]

The VG Nano is a heavy oil ball so probably as the oil breaks down the ball could be losing some if it's energy before going through the pocket. I can't find any useful info about the undefeated at that moment to get you a good answer. My guess is the Undefeated is a medium oil ball and can withstand the lanes a while longer than the heavy oil ball.

If you move BOTH feet and target right it will change the entry angle without going brooklyn, most times.

I have been told that the Undefeated and Mission are the same Bill? Does that help?

[martinezsam2495]

amazing! keep it up guys! Maybe with that trillion dollars, you can buy me an imaginary ball!
haha

[billf]

I have been told that the Undefeated and Mission are the same Bill? Does that help?

Mike, they are both considered heavy oil balls. However, the VG Nano is rated 20 points higher on bowlingball.com's perfect scale. That's actually quite a bit. So yes, the Nano is designed to handle heavier volumes of oil than the Undefeated so plan on making a ball change when the 10 pins start laughing.

[billf]

I didn't see any posts my Mike or Jason tonight. I did see the chat box and hope all is patched up.
Mike, just an observation. Top guns usually don't fare well in handicap leagues. Usually those with the big handicaps manage to get better after they have enough games to not have the average pick up at the same pace. Say after 21 games a person has a 150 average. Now they start bowling 170s for a week. That would only raise their average to 152.5. On the flip side, the 220 average guys usually are right around there. Even if they have a big game one night it is usually accompanied by a very low game (for them). Just my opinion that wasn't asked for.....

[MICHAEL]

Mike, they are both considered heavy oil balls. However, the VG Nano is rated 20 points higher on bowlingball.com's perfect scale. That's actually quite a bit. So yes, the Nano is designed to handle heavier volumes of oil than the Undefeated so plan on making a ball change when the 10 pins start laughing.

Thanks Bill that makes sense,,, I started out today with the V.G. Nanno,,, but half way through the first game I started getting 10 pins, and changed to the Undefeated. I used it the rest of the first game and through the following two. The Rev infromation is helping a lot. It looked 50 percent better today!

[JaMau24]

I didn't see any posts my Mike or Jason tonight. I did see the chat box and hope all is patched up.
Mike, just an observation. Top guns usually don't fare well in handicap leagues. Usually those with the big handicaps manage to get better after they have enough games to not have the average pick up at the same pace. Say after 21 games a person has a 150 average. Now they start bowling 170s for a week. That would only raise their average to 152.5. On the flip side, the 220 average guys usually are right around there. Even if they have a big game one night it is usually accompanied by a very low game (for them). Just my opinion that wasn't asked for.....

Fortunately it all worked out. I was never mad at Mike, nor did I ever think he was mad at me. I understand his thinking though, It did seem as though this guy (Bruce) was only joining for the money and that it was weird he would join a league he wouldn't even be there for. I don't see the point of joining if you are just going to pre-bowl every week.

Like I said, he has now said he isn't going to do it and this other guy will (who will actually be there every week), and I'm happy Bruce decided against doing it. Very happy it worked out for everyone.

Now we can get back to just bowling and having fun and not worrying about all these teammate issues.

[billf]

If it was a trio league then the team could be Joyce, Jason and Mike. Every team could use a little handicap from a bowler who will get better each week.

[MICHAEL]

If it was a trio league then the team could be Joyce, Jason and Mike. Every team could use a little handicap from a bowler who will get better each week.

I might be handicaped Bill, but this old dog has his moments!!! Sure, Jason and my wife would benifit having me on a team, with my handicape, but that my friend was not to be this summer! I am amazed at how much (((Jason has improved in all aspects of his game))) two 700 plus series within a week! If he keeps this level, I might have to start bowling with Shades!!! LIke Pete,,, whats his name?? ,,, I am the ONE!! Not HIM!! HE's nothing!

If Jason keeps up this level of play, I might have to get him a present, I have been thinking about for the last two weeks!


I know I am a MUCh better bowler then Jason, and if it looks like he is kicking my butt in bowling, (every once in a while), it only because I do not want to destroy his confidence! Yes,,, Jason can learn a lot from watching this Old Bowling Warrior! Everything I do,,,,while bowling,,,, DON"T DO!!! ( lol...