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    Cool Some videos of me bowling, critique/help wanted

    So I'm getting back into bowling and would like to get more serious about it to join some leagues/tourneys.

    Here's the first video I took of myself bowling

    This ones a full game, edited down to about 1 1/2 mins, I think I finished high 190's/low 200's.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bPjt0L3g9o

    I had some friends give me some tips which resulted in this video

    This is just 4 strikes in a row.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkMHJxuD6Tw

    What other areas do you see where I can improve my game?

    I'm more interested in how to be more consistent in my shots.

    Right now I'm using an 15 pound Ebonite Evolve ball, sometimes I feel the ball is too heavy.

    The first video I was using no tape in my thumb hole, second video I had a couple pieces in it and it made my grip a lot better.

    Thanks everyone!

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    What sticks out the most is your out of balance at the foul line. Watch how after you release the ball, you have to bring your right leg back over fast to keep from falling to the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    What sticks out the most is your out of balance at the foul line. Watch how after you release the ball, you have to bring your right back over fast to keep from falling to the right.

    Ya, I worked on that a bit, and thought I improved a bit from the first to the second video.

    Any tips/tricks on howto fix it?

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    Take a look here at one of ron cliftons tips about falling off the shot
    http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip25.htm

    It should help look at the part *"Turning the TOE in is a common cause of falling off the shot" (pictures there) in your video looking at your feet you did just what hes talking about. You slide foot is pointing right at the right gutter in most of the shots.

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    Same as bowl1820, you are off-balance on your last step. You can notice how you move to the right immediately after your release. Other suggestions: wipe the ball before each shot for consistency, your armswing appears to be a little bent, and you might be bending your thumb too much causing a late release/loft. You are getting good results like in your videos, but there is always room for improvement! Not sure what speed you are throwing, but it looks pretty hard, which might cause you to get tired. You could also experience slowing down the ball speed if that is a concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Take a look here at one of ron cliftons tips about falling off the shot
    http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip25.htm

    It should help look at the part *"Turning the TOE in is a common cause of falling off the shot" (pictures there) in your video looking at your feet you did just what hes talking about. You slide foot is pointing right at the right gutter in most of the shots.
    Wow, ya that makes perfect sense. Going tomorrow to fix this issue! Thanks!

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    you don't look too bad, i've seen a lot worse. the biggest thing i see is definitely the balance like everyone else pointed out. Just focus on posing after your shot, practice a few games, and stay on balance until the ball hits the pins. you'll get the hang of it

    also try to bend your knee a little bit at release, it looks like you're standing straight up on it.

    your swing looks alright, it doesn't look like you're pulling it down, so don't worry about your speed.

    in your stance, hold your ball a little more to the right. you're starting it left of the swing plane and pushing it right into the swing plane, that can cause inconsistencies if you push it a little more than one shot, or a little less. ideally you'll want it to go straight back and forth.

    if you want to try to get a little revolutions more on the ball, try cupping your wrist a little more right until the point of release, and then uncup it onto the lane
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    Your balance at the line is the first thing I noticed. That article from Ron Clifton is a good place to start. Take a look at this video as well from Fred Borden and Jeri Edwards, two of the US Bowling team coaches.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NFS...1JCiMKxGcZBtPk
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    What stuck out the most to me besides the falling off balance at the line was
    that you are using a 4 step approach but you are not moving the ball at the
    same time as your right leg moves you are almost into your second step before
    the ball starts to move and that can contribute to your being off balance at the
    line because of it throwing your timing off.
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    Went today at lunch and concentrated more on not falling off the shot and moving the ball with my first step.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dewL40GSLjE

    I can see improvement, slowly but surely. What do you guys think.

    Also got a new properly fit ball. The evolve I was using was not drilled properly, the proshop I got the storm at noticed it right away.

    I feel much more comfortable with the properly fit ball.
    Last edited by mattfl; 03-24-2012 at 06:10 PM.

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