Still doing Scribing?

[bowl1820]

So I found this interesting but have a couple questions since I have never seen this before or even heard of it.

Look close at this picture of the Sarge Easter Grip near the finger holes and you can see the scribe lines on it.
On the other picture I used the person that scribed that ball I think kind of over did it. But you could see it easier in the picture.
This pic show you closer to how it should be done.

1) how would this damage the ball?

It doesn't damage the ball, it's just aesthetically unpleasing to a lot of people.

Isn't this no different than having your initials or name engraved on the ball?

Scribing is just a surface scratch and if you sand your balls (say changing surfaces) it will disappear. Engraving is different in that it is much deeper than scribe line.
Look at this way, a scribe mark is like scratching a piece of wood with a nail. Engraving is like using a router on that piece of wood. You can sand that scratch off, but you'd have to fill in what the router did.

2) what's the reason that someone would want these lines scribed on their ball? Is it so that if they decide to change the holes they would know where the originals holes where?

Why do it? If you had read the posts above it told the reason why. Because they feel it allows greater accuracy in drilling the grip.

3) would you be able to resell such a ball and would you buy a ball that has scribing on it?

Sure you could resell them. Depending on where you bought a used ball from, if it's been plugged and resurfaced it will be gone.

Would I buy one? Sure. It's just a couple of scratches, shoot people buy other peoples used balls all the time, with scratches, dents etc. Whats a couple of light scratches that will disappear once it gets sanded once or twice.

[dgz924s]

I can understand the accuracy based on the balls I had drilled. The grease pencil leaves a fairly wide mark opposed to a fine scribe line and if the pencil is not real sharp it leaves an even wider line. So when setting the drill on the line or X it could be off by a thousands of an inch or more, atleast this is how I read into the accuracy between the two methods?

In regards to the line damaging the ball, I don't think the scribe is even near the track so I would not think it is an issue? Cosmetic, I agree.

Interesting thread as I never heard of the scribing method. But I wonder why my Dads Brunswick Black Beauty from the mid 60's, and in brand new condition BTW, has no scribe lines because there were no grease pencils back in those days, wonder what was used back then?

[bowl1820]

Interesting thread as I never heard of the scribing method. But I wonder why my Dads Brunswick Black Beauty from the mid 60's, and in brand new condition BTW, has no scribe lines because there were no grease pencils back in those days, wonder what was used back then?

No grease pencils in the 60's! Grease pencils,wax pencils, tailoring pencils,china markers have been around a lot longer than that.

[dgz924s]

No grease pencils in the 60's! Grease pencils,wax pencils, tailoring pencils,china markers have been around a lot longer than that.

Yes after the post went up I forgot there were crayolas back then, I just never saw pencils back in the day so I assumed there were none.

[TheSheibs]

Did crayolas have a sharper point back then than they do now? I would think the person drilling the holes would want as thin a line as possible so that it would be as accurate as possible. I watched this one youtube video and the guy even said he usually uses a pencil that would create a thinner line but was using one that would leave a thicker line so people watching the video would be able to see the line he put on the ball better. So I kind of assume that scribing was used so that it would be as accurate as possible. It makes sense to me to want the thinnest line to be as accurate as possible.

Bowl1820~ That picture shows it as a very light line and I now see what you mean. thanks for answering my questions on scribing with posting that picture.

[nev]

Wouldnt scribing deem the ball illegal under USBC rules

[bowl1820]

Wouldnt scribing deem the ball illegal under USBC rules

I assume your referring to this:
Surface
The surface of the ball shall be free of all depressions or grooves of specific pattern, except
for holes or indentations used for gripping the ball, identification lettering and numbers, and
incidental chipping or marking caused by wear. Engraved pictures, logos, and/or designs from
the manufacturer are not considered grooves of specific pattern.

I don't know.

Considering all the years it's been done, if it was violating the rules. It would have been brought up and dealt with long ago.

I'll do some research into it, I already sent a email to the USBC rule dept. asking them about it.


Another example of scribing.

[bowl1820]

Wouldnt scribing deem the ball illegal under USBC rules

Okay here's from the USBC rules dept.

Hello,

Thank you for your question. Grip line scribing are not considered to be grooves of a specific pattern, and are usually not in the ball track so it is acceptable, and is not a violation of any USBC rule/regulation. A ball that is scribed is allowed for use during USBC Certified competition. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,
Jason Milligan
Research Technician

[billf]

Now I'm thinking of trying this method on my next ball. It makes so much sense from an accuracy stand point and am curious how much of a difference it will make for me personally.
I can just imagine the driller's expression when I walk in with a ball all layed out with scribe marks ready to go.

[bowl1820]

Yeah I can see how it could affect accuracy, along with the drilling style of the pro. If they are a "Leave the line" or "split the line" or "Take the line" on how they punch the holes. And if they punch the thumb first, then measure the hole span for even more accuracy.