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    Quote Originally Posted by austin View Post
    Price of bowling here in Australia is a far cry from you guys in the states. With AMF Australia, social play $14.90 1 game, $19.90 for 2 games. League bowlers get $5.50 practice games if you flash your gold member card. You can pre-purchase games online and print out a voucher for $7.95. Most of the private centres aren't too far off this either, but haven't seen any under $10.00 a game for social play for yonks.
    Yes but it evens out because we have to pay more for Victoria Bitter and XXXX if we can even find it. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by austin View Post
    Price of bowling here in Australia is a far cry from you guys in the states. With AMF Australia, social play $14.90 1 game, $19.90 for 2 games. League bowlers get $5.50 practice games if you flash your gold member card. You can pre-purchase games online and print out a voucher for $7.95. Most of the private centres aren't too far off this either, but haven't seen any under $10.00 a game for social play for yonks.
    Are those in Australian Dollars? Whats the exchange rate?

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    The exchange rate is basically 1:1 so it doesn't matter.........DAMN that's expensive .

    I was going to complain about the prices here in Switzerland, but now they don't seem that bad

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    for Singapore.. only 1 bowling center has $1.50 games from Monday to Thursday 1200Hrs - 1800Hrs for students exclusively... During the holidays, it cost more.. Because the place is kinda remote.. so it's difficult to get in without a car.. although a shuttle bus is available.. others would be $4.50 all day round for students.. $2.70 before 1800Hrs for (Nebo Members) $3.20 after 1800Hrs (Nebo Members), Not sure about the rest though.. but nebo's the cheapest.. Glad i have it.. or also there is this membership of the place which is $15 per hour.. It can be used anytime of the day.. All $$ was in SGD! so do convert the $ yourself! hahahaa
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    dude supply demand... if bowling was more popular it would be less for open bowling, leagues would not have trouble filling teams, and there would be more televised events and probably more companies involved. Bowling is still cheap compared to other sports (golf) and equipment wise (hockey) but it forsure is not because it's not popular. ECON101 supply demand... read

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    You mean like gasoline where the demand is high and the available supply a hundred times higher? ECON101 is great for reading but was the class furthest from reality that I had to take. Golf is a lot more popular with the general public than bowling but still more expensive. Supply and demand as explained in school books would work as such if corporate greed didn't influence pricing so much. A big percentage of the companies that folded the past four years wasn't due to supply and demand of their product but rather the demand the CEO's but on the supply of company funds, milking them dry.
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    Gas is high due to reasons other than supply and demand, Look at all the different world events that have happened in the last 60 years which have influenced gas prices. I know this because I just did a paper on four events that influenced oil prices. One of them just happened in 2008. The price for bowling has increased due to a lower interest from the public, the recession, and not having the kind of financial backing that other sports, like golf, has. Golf has a number of sponsors who are both companies, individuals, and country clubs. Plus in order to be a member of a country club, you have to pay up to $1000, sometimes depending on the club even more than that. So golf has a lot of money backing it. Bowling only has a few sponsors who don't give nearly as much money to the sport therefore, bowling does not have the kind of financial backing as golf does to really make it popular. In order for a sport to be popular there needs to be the financial backing to pay things like wages, prize money, bowling alleys, etc. Plus you need to take into account that back in the 80s and 90s, things were overall cheaper. So you need to think about inflation, even though it has not been that big it has still happened. Also the companies that folded in the past four years had little to do with the supply of company funds but due to poor management, poor allocation of funds, poor book keeping, having operational cost exceed income, and overall cost of equipment, wages, and retirement costs.

    The point is that it is not econ101 supply and demand but more to do with the current state of the economy, and financial backing of the sport. The prices we pay are caused by much more than supply and demand. To say such a thing is to have a limited understanding of our economy. Might I suggest watching the documentary "A League of Ordinary Gentlemen". It is a behind the scene type of movie that is about the PBA back in 2005.

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    Economists have convinced ( or is it conned? ) most people into thinking that economics is a science like physics or chemistry. Therefore we assume that the economy can be "managed". The problem is that the US alone has about 300,000,000 variables, i.e. Humans. OK, so a lot of them are infants and children who do not make direct choices, but I didn't include the various groups like clubs, businesses, corporations, churches, non-profits and bowling leagues that do. We're still dealing with a pretty big number free agents. If we were on the planet Vulcan, and all decisions were made with logic the economists might be right. Here on earth, where even the most logical people are known to make decisions based on emotion and then use logic to try and justify them, there is no way to do it.
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    Economics is a science but not like physics or chemistry. It is more like mathematics. It uses a lot of formulas and calculations to try to explain things in our economy. The economy CAN be managed but the problem isn't the millions of variables. The problem is the desire for more. More money, more success, more recognition, etc. Also our, the US, economy is affect by the world economy. The problem is that by having our economy connected to the world economy. We have problems in other countries affecting the economy in the US. Look at Greece and the EU. They both have problems and if you watch the stock market, every time there is a story in the news about trouble in the EU or even Greece, you will see the stock market in the US drop. This is because the economy has become so entwined with other countries economy that when a countries economy is doing poorly, other countries are affected by it. Also economics is more like mathematics since if you change one number/variable you will get a different outcome/answer. Also I disagree with your statement that even the most logical people make decisions based on emotion rather than logic. Most "logical" people who make decisions, base their decision on facts and not emotions. It seems like your trying to disprove economics entirely by saying it is pointless since even logical people base decisions on emotion. What facts do you have to back such a statement? Examples?

    Also if bowling wasn't as popular as it currently is, we would be seeing prices a lot higher since the bowling alleys would be making a lot less money. The reason that league members receive a discount is because leagues account for a majority of the bowling alleys income. Followed by the increased number of people on Friday and Saturday nights. Followed by increased number of people during the summer months. If bowling was less popular, the price would have to be higher in order to meet operational costs, and wages for employees. Not to mention maintenance cost. Minus the money that is paid out of they have any type of tournament or event in which there are cash prizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austin View Post
    Price of bowling here in Australia is a far cry from you guys in the states. With AMF Australia, social play $14.90 1 game, $19.90 for 2 games. League bowlers get $5.50 practice games if you flash your gold member card. You can pre-purchase games online and print out a voucher for $7.95. Most of the private centres aren't too far off this either, but haven't seen any under $10.00 a game for social play for yonks.
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