Hammer Bad A$$ first look.

[Shaneshu87]

Note: the O.O.B. of the Bad A SS is not 1500.

The O.O.B. is 500/2000/ Powerhouse Factory Finish Polish done at 300RPM

forgive me if i'm wrong about this but i thought when you went 500/2000 that gives you a 1500 surface, which is why you often see several balls with a 500/2000/2000 to get a true 2000 grit surface

[bowl1820]

forgive me if i'm wrong about this but i thought when you went 500/2000 that gives you a 1500 surface,

While subtracting 500 from 2000 gives you the number 1500, sanding with a 500 Abralon then 2000 Abralon doesn't give you a 1500 grit surface.
Sanding grits don't work that way.

Typically to get a "1500" the steps are:

1500-grit Polished Factory Finish
1. 500-grit pad – Sand firmly for 30 seconds on all four sides.
2. 1000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
3. 2000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
4. 4000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
5. Storm® Step Two™ – Polish lightly for 15 seconds on each side.

which is why you often see several balls with a 500/2000/2000 to get a true 2000 grit surface

That does not give you a "True" 2000 grit surface. To get a True surface you have to do all the steps in between the lowest grit and the final surface grit.

A 500/2000 is one type of 2000 grit surface (But not a true 2000)
A 500/800/2000 is a smoother 2000 grit surface (But still not a true 2000 but closer)
A 500/800/1000/2000 is still smoother 2000 grit surface (But still not a true 2000 but probably as close most would get)

You might take a look at my bowlers grit chart It has so info on surfaces:
http://home.earthlink.net/%7Elitefro...t_chart_v2.pdf

If you want to see how the Bad A ss was surfaced at the factory watch this video:

[bubba809]

interesting. What would the 500/1000 with polish be considered then? I believe this is what he changed the Bada** to and found success. I have also changed my surface to this and am happy with it.

[bowl1820]

interesting. What would the 500/1000 with polish be considered then? I believe this is what he changed the Bada** to and found success. I have also changed my surface to this and am happy with it.

What the actual surface grit on the ball would be I don't know, if we used the ball surface scanner we could find out.

But it would depend on just how it was did and the polished used and other factors.

Using Storm as a example.

To get a 1500-grit Polished Factory Finish using the Surface Factory machine:
1500-grit Polished Factory Finish
1. Sand 500 setting – Set sanding time for two minutes.
2. Sand 1000 setting - Set sanding time for two minutes.
3. Polish setting - Set polishing time for three minutes.

To get a 1500-grit Polished Factory Finish using a spinner:
1500-grit Polished Factory Finish
1. 500-grit pad – Sand firmly for 30 seconds on all four sides.
2. 1000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
3. 2000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
4. 4000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
5. Storm® Step Two™ – Polish lightly for 15 seconds on each side.

One thing to remember too, is abralon uses the FEPA P scale which is different that reg. US wet/dry grits

A 500 abralon is about 360-400 us grit
A 1000 abralon is about 500-600 us grit
A 4000 abralon is about 1500 us grit

[Shaneshu87]

thank you for answering that very well!i have actually never really had it explained in that detail and have never really had the need to do the research. that what i get for ASSuming lol pun intended

[2handsBowlingJunky]

I own this ball since nov 2014. Love it! Played it polished and matte. Often the first ball out of the bag. Prefer it at 3000.

Bowled on wolf pattern with it and it was perfect.

[foreverincamo]

I won this ball in an on-line drawing and gave it to my wife. She loves it. It was her first ever new ball, and she could hook the daylights out of it. Unfortunately, she's developed arthritis and hasn't bowled much lately. What's funny is she tried to donate the ball to the local youth league but it's been banned by the association because it says *** on it. Really? I couldn't donate my DV8 Thug for the same reason. Racial overtones.

[bowl1820]

I won this ball in an on-line drawing and gave it to my wife. She loves it. It was her first ever new ball, and she could hook the daylights out of it. Unfortunately, she's developed arthritis and hasn't bowled much lately. What's funny is she tried to donate the ball to the local youth league but it's been banned by the association because it says *** on it. Really? I couldn't donate my DV8 Thug for the same reason. Racial overtones.

Yeah that happened back when it came out, it was a thing for 5 mins. a lot of nothing then you never heard any more about it. I still have mine, though I'd have to get the grip updated to use it.