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[chrono00]

IF he can average 200 for a minimum of 36 games on THS, 190 on Sport or cash in a PBA event he could buy a card.

Being able to buy a card and actually being able to make it through the qualifying rounds is another matter.

Dead money.

Anybody can bowl on a THS. Bowling on a sport pattern is a totally different world.

I wouldn't see that happening in this league for sure. Twelve 5 man teams, I'd say around half of them average over 200. And it's a pretty tough house from all accounts I hear. My one friend usually averages 195-200 here. However He bowled in a scratch doubles league over in jersey and was averaging 221

[NewToBowling]

Are you releasing with two hands. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is an illegal release if so.

[1VegasBowler]

Are you releasing with two hands. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is an illegal release if so.

The USBC has required that 2 handers must declare whether they are right or left handed, and if need be, they can watch a bowler to assist in making that declaration. This is done because you cannot throw right and left handed during competition, unless there is medical documentation to preclude this.

Where they get specific, is, from what other 2 handers are doing. The balance hand comes off of the ball just before delivery, and is thrown with the dominant hand.

While I have not contacted the USBC offices, as of yet, my own interpretation would make his delivery illegal because both hands are being used to release the ball.

[bowl1820]

Are you releasing with two hands. Correct me if I'm wrong but that is an illegal release if so.

A two handed delivery (not to be confused with a Two-Handed Approach) is not illegal.


Two-Handed Delivery
Both hands impart force on the ball to get it down the lane. Normally done by swinging the ball
between one’s legs and is more commonly used when youth start to learn how to bowl.
Individuals who deliver the ball from the chest using both hands would be considered to
be using a two-handed delivery and therefore must remain with this style throughout
competition.

Two-Handed Approach
Both hands are placed on the ball and are left on the ball throughout the swing until release. At
the point of release, a dominant hand releases the ball thereby being a one-handed delivery.
Additionally, the dominant hand is determined by the side of the body about which the ball
swings.

[1VegasBowler]

A two handed delivery (not to be confused with a Two-Handed Approach) is not illegal.


Two-Handed Delivery
Both hands impart force on the ball to get it down the lane. Normally done by swinging the ball
between one’s legs and is more commonly used when youth start to learn how to bowl.
Individuals who deliver the ball from the chest using both hands would be considered to
be using a two-handed delivery and therefore must remain with this style throughout
competition.

Two-Handed Approach
Both hands are placed on the ball and are left on the ball throughout the swing until release. At
the point of release, a dominant hand releases the ball thereby being a one-handed delivery.
Additionally, the dominant hand is determined by the side of the body about which the ball
swings.

In this case, it certainly appears that the ball is being released with 2 hands, and if that is the case then it would be illegal.

[Amyers]

In this case, it certainly appears that the ball is being released with 2 hands, and if that is the case then it would be illegal.

Vegas the two handed chest pass style of bowling is not illegal. You just can't change it once you throw the first ball that way he or she would have to shoot spares and roll every ball in that fashion.

[bowl1820]

In this case, it certainly appears that the ball is being released with 2 hands, and if that is the case then it would be illegal.

What USBC rule in the rulebook says that it illegal?

In his video he is releasing the ball from his chest with what appears to be both hands, That would be a Two-Handed Delivery.

In The USBC Equip & Spec Manual it does not state a two-Handed delivery is illegal, it just says "Individuals who deliver the ball from the chest using both hands would be considered to be using a two-handed delivery and therefore must remain with this style throughout competition.".

[1VegasBowler]

Vegas the two handed chest pass style of bowling is not illegal. You just can't change it once you throw the first ball that way he or she would have to shoot spares and roll every ball in that fashion.

From what I saw, and maybe I'm wrong (won't be the first time..lol), but I don't see a clearly dominant hand in this. I see 2 hands releasing the ball.

[1VegasBowler]

What USBC rule in the rulebook says that it illegal?

In his video he is releasing the ball from his chest with what appears to be both hands, That would be a Two-Handed Delivery.

The USBC Equip & Spec Manual does not state a two-Handed delivery is illegal, it just says "Individuals who deliver the ball from the chest using both hands would be considered to be using a two-handed delivery and therefore must remain with this style throughout competition.".

They are saying that there has to be a declared dominant hand. This is to prevent a bowler from switching hands for spares.

Looks like I'll have to make contact with the USBC in Texas so that I can get their interpretation.

[bowl1820]

From what I saw, and maybe I'm wrong (won't be the first time..lol), but I don't see a clearly dominant hand in this. I see 2 hands releasing the ball.

The dominate hand requirement is in reference to the Two-handed approach style not the Two-Handed Delivery style.

While they may seem the same they're different styles.