New Ball soon looking for advice

[scottymoney]

Well I figured I would finally create a profile after reading the forums for awhile and ask everyone what I should look at for a new ball I shall be purchasing soon.

Info about my game:
Higher than average speed
Average revs
Throw a very down and in style. I stand 2nd dot throw 2nd arrow.

Currently I have 2 older balls
Track Crash 15 lbs.
Columbia 300 Scout Reactive 16 lbs.

Both of these balls offer me roughly the same reaction and are very similar other than the weight. The new ball will be back to 16lbs and will most likely take the place of the Crash.

Finally I just started back into bowling this year after at least 3-4 years of not bowling at all. I enjoy it and can't wait every week for my Monday night league. I have gotten my form back pretty quick going from average 129 the first week back to 153 now. Every week I am over my average which helps the team alot.

Ok so back to the question at hand, I am looking for something with more hook than the 2 balls I have, good for a wide range of conditions (I would say mainly medium to dry is what i normally see) and not too expensive. I would like to stay under $120. Let's hear some ideas and I know form reading other posts DV8 balls will be recommended!

[AZBowla]

I have a DV8 Marauder and I love it, it works very well on those conditions. Bowlingball.com has 'em for $114, which fits your budget as well (drilling will be an extra $40 to $50 depending on where you go for that). I don't know how it compares to the Crash or the Scout as far as the amount of hook goes, but mine sure does hook. I used to play the same line as you, but I've found with this ball, I need to stand at the center dot and throw over the second arrow, that's how much more it hooks than my old Brunswick Cyclone. If I really rev it up, I can stand at the 4th or even 5th dot and still hit the pocket with it. It's a very versatile ball and I can't say enough good things about it.

[Zothen]

Hmmmmm,most dry-medium oil balls are around the $150-$180 range with drilling including those at bowlingballs.com where you can find a ball for $120,but,will pay about $50 for drilling.

Medium oil balls-Brunswick C-(System)Maxxed Out & Versa Max or Karma(Dull,Solid or Pearl),Roto Grip Shatter,Columbia Violent Eruption & Eruption or Crossroads,AMF Bullwhip,Storm Manic,Frantic,Tropical Breeze or !Q Tour,DV8Misfit all I can think of right now. All can be used on dry depening on how it's drilled and you might have to alter coverstock.

Zothen

[scottymoney]

I factored out drilling expenses, just looking for a ball around that price point. The expense to drill a ball is pretty constant no matter what ball I end up with. I am just looking to not shell out much more than $120 for the ball.

League nights i see the most oil and I would say they are on the higher side of medium, and as everyone knows open bowling is always more dry than that. Also I forgot to mention the lanes I bowl on are oiled to 41' instead of the more normal 38' which I think most people see.

[striker12]

well yeah the dv8 balls are great the too reckless is a great ball works for me on all oil conditions but another ball that will work great is some of the track 5series balls i got the 716T and i throw it even on dry lanes and can get it right to the pocket. soo take a look on bowlingball.com at the track balls and see if there is any there that you like not sure of price wise.

[AZBowla]

Hmmmmm,most dry-medium oil balls are around the $150-$180 range with drilling including those at bowlingballs.com where you can find a ball for $120,but,will pay about $50 for drilling.

Yeah it's 6 of one and half dozen of the other, but the pro shop I go to only carries 2 DV8 balls, the HRR and the Terror. I wanted the Marauder and the only place in town that had one wanted $150 for it plus more for drilling, plus they were clear across town, plus I would have also had to pay sales tax. I actually saved a good chunk of money by ordering it online and having it drilled locally once it arrived.

[75lockwood]

Like Said above, the dv8 marauder looks like an awesome ball, for dry to medium it might be perfect! if you are looking for something with slightly more kick, the marauder madness is the new kid on the block

[AngeloPD]

Yeah it's 6 of one and half dozen of the other, but the pro shop I go to only carries 2 DV8 balls, the HRR and the Terror. I wanted the Marauder and the only place in town that had one wanted $150 for it plus more for drilling, plus they were clear across town, plus I would have also had to pay sales tax. I actually saved a good chunk of money by ordering it online and having it drilled locally once it arrived.

im pretty sure you can ask ur proshop to order the ball for you. if my proshop doesnt have the ball in stock, we just ask him to order it for us.

[billf]

The Marauder would match your style, speed and revs the best with a much better hook and carry potential than your current balls. Your speed will be the biggest factor in determining how far, if at all, you have to move towards the center. Plus the Marauder is designed for more back end which would be more apt to enable you to keep close to your usual line.
The Marauder Madness is MUCH stronger and will be too strong for where you like to play. If you can alter your axis rotation and move left 10-15 boards then it would work for you.

[75lockwood]

The Marauder would match your style, speed and revs the best with a much better hook and carry potential than your current balls. Your speed will be the biggest factor in determining how far, if at all, you have to move towards the center. Plus the Marauder is designed for more back end which would be more apt to enable you to keep close to your usual line.
The Marauder Madness is MUCH stronger and will be too strong for where you like to play. If you can alter your axis rotation and move left 10-15 boards then it would work for you.

Ok fine, "slightly more kick" may be just a tad of an understatement LOL

[scottymoney]

Thanks for the advice, definitely see your point now Bill. My hook and carry are lacking. If I miss my mark (mainly to the outside) now or don't throw the right amount of revs I watch the ball actually quit going to the pocket. It is kind of weird to see. On the other hand I know I throw it hard enough to create pin action. I think the pin action i create from the speed actually has given me many lucky strikes. I know my current balls are basically too entry performance and old to do what I want and it is time to move up to a "big boy" ball.

Anyone else that wants to chime in I will gladly listen to ideas.

[scottymoney]

Bill what do you think of the Misfit for me? I see it is more angular and less back end, but at the price point where I might be able to get 2 balls instead of just one. Or do you think I got Maruader and call it a day? I honestly hate having so many choices!

[75lockwood]

Bill what do you think of the Misfit for me? I see it is more angular and less back end, but at the price point where I might be able to get 2 balls instead of just one. Or do you think I got Maruader and call it a day? I honestly hate having so many choices!

Sorry, Bill can't come to the phone right now...


I would say stick with the Marauder, the misfit might be a little to weak for you, and remember its quality not quantity that matters :cool:

[AZBowla]

Bill what do you think of the Misfit for me? I see it is more angular and less back end, but at the price point where I might be able to get 2 balls instead of just one. Or do you think I got Maruader and call it a day? I honestly hate having so many choices!

Wait and see who wins this week's ball, if it's you then you'll be all set! The Marauder Madness would be a great fit for you I think, it's basically the same ball I have on the inside with just a different coverstock on the outside. It should work great for you.

[scottymoney]

Wait and see who wins this week's ball, if it's you then you'll be all set! The Marauder Madness would be a great fit for you I think, it's basically the same ball I have on the inside with just a different coverstock on the outside. It should work great for you.

I saw that, and I am a few weeks away from making a final decision. I watched a few videos of the misfit and alot of the guys look to be throwing it basically how i would throw it. In the end anything I buy is going to have a batter hook rating than what I use now. Using Bowlingball.com's perfect scale the scout and crash both are rated at 89, pretty freaking low!

[scottymoney]

So good news and bad news.......
Talking to the wife telling her I want to get a new ball. And she says "Don't buy one.... pause...... I am getting you one for your birthday". Yeah the pause made me a bit sad and then I was instantly happy with the birthday idea. Then went to thinking, damnit now I have to wait until January.

So bad news I have to wait a bit, good news is I think I don't have to worry about price as much. I do have it narrowed down to 2 or 3 at the moment. These being the Rotogrip Shatter, the DV8 Marauder and the DV8 Misfit. Although I know you guys are saying the misfit is less aggressive than the marauder and just to get the marauder and tweak my lines a bit. But I think I am close to deciding. Keep the ideas coming I always like to hear input.

[AngeloPD]

i'd go with the marauder if i were you :)

[billf]

Being a down and in player with above average speed, the Misfit would work if drilled on the aggressive side. This ball seems to prefer speed at the pins below 16 mph in my experience. However, mine is drilled pin up (more length) and that driller tended to drill everything a little too long for my speed. All those balls I just throw slower but you shouldn't have to do that.
The current price of the Misfit does make it more appealing. The fact the perfect scale rating is about a 100 points higher than what you are currently using and it may just work better for you than I'm thinking. I like my Misift, it's a good ball when used as designed.

[The German Shepherd]

The DV8 Marauder sounds like a good match for you...

Jay