looks to get another high end ball

[striker12]

hey guys my proshop said for this year he wants to see me throw eather a storm/rotogrip/brunswick ball but i was not fully sure witch one i wanted so then i just thought we will replace my hell raiser revenge but not fully replace but get another ball close to it with a pin up cause the hell raiser revenge is pin down.

dose anyone have any ideas on a strong ball from storm/roto-grip/brunswick on witch one i should get the more options i get the better he dose not want me throwing the dv8 nightmare cause i would have to much fun with it and like i do if i throw a wide shot and it over hooks i just laugh cause its funny then try to ajust but hard when your laughing and want to keep having fun.

soo any ideas help but please mention a few of each ball and every person has to mention 1 of each ball that they think would be good to somewhat replace the hellr aiser revenge.

thanks

Stephen.

[75lockwood]

Lol Striker, you know its up to you what you get and not the pro shop right? if you want a nightmare get it and tell the proshop guy dv8=Brunswick jr LOL

but as far as strong balls go, storm makes the vivid, lucid and virtual gravity nano/nano pearl air fresheners. Brunswick has the Nexxxus series (i think thats enough x's) as well as the c system series. and Rotogrip has the defiant and critical theory. all are high hooking balls, but dv8 is currently the leader in super over hooking balls LOL

to be honest, you have enough balls, work on you instead of just trying to find a new ball :p

[Ball99999]

What kind of oil do you bowl on? Im realizing now that the "high end" and "high performance" are just buzz words. According to tamerbowling a heavy oil ball may have less hook in heavy oil since it expends constant energy keeping traction.

This year I've seen the biggest praise goto the IQ Tour. The review spreadsheet shows it having all 9s in both heavy AND medium oil which is nuts. I think im going to get the IQ tour pearl.

[striker12]

ball99999 i bowl on muti patterns almost like pba patterns but ths but oil put anywhere on the lane gose's from 35feet-44feet in length and has units of 28-36 crazy oil.

[Davec13]

Unless he is giving you the ball at his cost why would you even let him dictate what you "should" buy? Bowl with what you want to bowl with.

[striker12]

lockwood it is my choice but i don't really feel like looking up all kinds of balls but you helped out alot but im thinking of getting a high end ball that's pin up cause sometimes my hell raiser revenge rolls out too soon and sometimes over hooks and sometimes dose not hook enough but the dv8 nightmare he was saying as a joke if i wanted it i would get it but i'm going to hold off on getting it cause i think my brother might get it and if he dose we will get it drilled to my hand where i can throw it lol.


if i buy a new ball it would only be my 2nd new ball of the season but im trying to think of a brand to go with track balls cause the proshop and a few other people told me a good thing when building a arrsenal get 2 different brands and see witch brands works better then the next season the one that worked best keep it soo lets say track/storm and track did better then the next season i can go track/roto-grip and so on to find the brand that works best for me and my style one guy did this and after 2 season he found his brand witch was brunswick.

[Davec13]

If you are thinking track look into the 912T. I got the chance to throw one right after it was released and it was a nice ball, plenty of hook and looks nice to boot.

[striker12]

yeah im thinking of the track 912T but in future but thing i have been told by a few people is always get 2 brands then you can find out witch one is working better for you not like get a track arrsennal and then say get a storm arrsenal like mixed they said it helps out and also gives you a idea on witch balls are working on sertine oils and witch ones are not working.


the guy in the proshop is also a coach in the jr league and im avg 141 and every 2 weeks i throw high games he sees what i am doing im having fun throwing the ball every game muti angles never same line but next week is going to have to bee my high games cause this week was not so well 122-141-141 2nd and 3rd games where avg was getting to much slid and too much hooks on my track 716T and my hell raiser revenge.

[Zothen]

Brunswick neXus or Aura,Roto Grip Defiant or beserk,Storm Lucid,Vivid or !Q.

Zothen

[striker12]

thanks zothen for more idea's

[bowl1820]

According to tamerbowling a heavy oil ball may have less hook in heavy oil since it expends constant energy keeping traction.

Tamerbowling:

They will not visibly appear as the biggest hooking balls. That’s because increased friction also increases the amount of energy used up by the ball. Heavy oil balls are meant to create a consistent read in such heavy conditions. They don’t try to create a booming right to left move and a huge backend generally speaking. They will be smooth front to back, meaning they will hook as much in the midlane as they do in the backend creating an arcing motion, rather than a skid/snap motion.

[Zothen]

No problem Striker12! Their are a lot of good balls out their for heavy oil.

Zothen

[striker12]

yeah i wanted to get some info from you guys cause alot of people on here bowl with those balls and i have never thrown one of them before so thats why i'm getting you guys to tell me some balls and i will look into them all and see witch ones look good to me meaning im going to be watching alot of videos.

[Zothen]

I personally have the Defiant & neXus Solid(Both asymmetrical)and the beserk(symmetrical)and really like both. The neXus Solid is the only ball that has limited me to using it on long sport patterns only. Defiant and beserk were drilled opposite of each other(Defiant pin over ring finger,beserk opposite)and I can use them on light/medium-heavy oil with the right coverstock adjustment.

Zothen

[striker12]

I personally have the Defiant & neXus Solid(Both asymmetrical)and the beserk(symmetrical)and really like both. The neXus Solid is the only ball that has limited me to using it on long sport patterns only. Defiant and beserk were drilled opposite of each other(Defiant pin over ring finger,beserk opposite)and I can use them on light/medium-heavy oil with the right coverstock adjustment.

Zothen

nice could you put a picture on here of how your neXus solid is drilled because thats mostly what i need is a long pattern with high volume of oil on the lane and sometimes lower volume of oil.

my hell raiser revenge is pin down and there is a picture of the layout on it somewhere on the boards cant really remember where but it is ment for a really roll and dose not really work so well on long oil cause it will skid down to far and if i bring it in to closer or go streght up 10 board it over hooks so i'm looking for a ball that i can open the lane up and still get a nice move on the backend into the pocket.

[striker12]

ok i have narrowed it down to 3 balls one from each brand and the balls are.

storm- virtual gravity nano

roto-grip- defiant

brunswick- nexus solid

[75lockwood]

ok i have narrowed it down to 3 balls one from each brand and the balls are.

storm- virtual gravity nano

roto-grip- defiant

brunswick- nexus solid


Well... if orange mint smelling bowlingballs are your thing, the virtual gravity nano is the ball for you!

more seriously though, all three are very similar, they all have near identical hook potential and all have Asymmetric cores

slight difference include:

defiant/nexus/nano
Finish: 3000 Grit Abralon/500 & 1,500 Siaair Micro Pad Finish/4000-grit Abralon
RG :2.49/2.536/2.48

the other difference is price, on bowlingball.com the nexus is $20 cheaper than the other two.

all look like great balls.....

[UBowling]

Here is my recommendation on options for a new ball

Storm:
IQ Tour, Lucid, Fire Road. If you can wait until next month, go with the IQ Tour Pearl.

Roto Grip:
Defiant Edge

Brunswick:
Aura or Meanstreak

But hey if you find a ball that makes bowling fun for you, go with it. I have seen the Nightmare in action, it is a very good ball. The Marauder Madness is sweet too. You may also want to check out the Motiv Venom Strike. It is supposed to be a light-medium oil ball, but it hooks a ton for me.

p.s. I live in Utah, it is Storm country here, everybody loves and throws Storm/Roto Grip. I throw as many different brands as possible and one of my best friends is on DV8 staff so I like to be familiar with equipment.

[striker12]

Here is my recommendation on options for a new ball

Storm:
IQ Tour, Lucid, Fire Road. If you can wait until next month, go with the IQ Tour Pearl.

Roto Grip:
Defiant Edge

Brunswick:
Aura or Meanstreak

But hey if you find a ball that makes bowling fun for you, go with it. I have seen the Nightmare in action, it is a very good ball. The Marauder Madness is sweet too. You may also want to check out the Motiv Venom Strike. It is supposed to be a light-medium oil ball, but it hooks a ton for me.

p.s. I live in Utah, it is Storm country here, everybody loves and throws Storm/Roto Grip. I throw as many different brands as possible and one of my best friends is on DV8 staff so I like to be familiar with equipment.


ubowling i said bowling ball that is a high end ball you said some but then you also sead some mid performance balls too im looking for a ball to replace my HRR that im going to get drilled pin up my HRR is pin down and my proshop sead i should pick between storm/rotogrip/brunswick for a ball to go with my track ball/balls.

[striker12]

i think i have decided i might get the nexus solid watched alotof videos on it getting thrown down the lane and same with the other balls but the nexus i seen that you are able to mvoe all over the lane better and still get a nice backend move on every line from the the left of the lane all the way to the right and nice looking ball.

[75lockwood]

interesting choice, when are you planning on getting it? and what will it be replacing in your bag?

[billf]

Ben, did you not read what Striker painfully posted? It's replacing his Hell Raiser Revenge that isn't drilled to the balls liking.

[BoomGoesTheDynomite]

congrats on the nexus if thats what you decide. It really is a great ball. But judging based on what's in your bag I have to wonder why you want another aggressive bowling ball. You seem to have many balls that are very strong and in my opinion your biggest need would be a ball like the tropical heat hybrid or a versa max. This would fit nicely between the freeze and the too reckless. I don't know much about how you bowl but that's what I would get if I were you. If you do go with the Nexus I can say I love mine more than I thought I would. It took me a couple games to get the cover to calm down a bit though.

oh and if you haven't decided yet for storm I would go with the IQ tour or the Lucid... I've never been a fan of rotogrip... and for Brunswick you can't go wrong with anything in the Nexus line.

Good luck on your decision

[noeymc]

list of the top balls ( hook wise) for each company and the info i know about it

hammer deep purple taboo ( my ball)
strom lucid
ebnoite Mission x (the ball i was thinking about got hammer instead)
DV8 nightmare (prob my next ball)
brunswick aura
Roto Grip Defiant ( my friend uses it he loves it)
900 Global Freight Train

[striker12]

congrats on the nexus if thats what you decide. It really is a great ball. But judging based on what's in your bag I have to wonder why you want another aggressive bowling ball. You seem to have many balls that are very strong and in my opinion your biggest need would be a ball like the tropical heat hybrid or a versa max. This would fit nicely between the freeze and the too reckless. I don't know much about how you bowl but that's what I would get if I were you. If you do go with the Nexus I can say I love mine more than I thought I would. It took me a couple games to get the cover to calm down a bit though.

oh and if you haven't decided yet for storm I would go with the IQ tour or the Lucid... I've never been a fan of rotogrip... and for Brunswick you can't go wrong with anything in the Nexus line.

Good luck on your decision

yeah i was at first awhile ago thinking of getting ball for between the freeze and too reckless but then talked to my proshop and he said because of i throw the ball muti ways i can use the freeze i have even had my freeze hook from dropping at 30 pushing out to 5 and it still over hooks the pocket on medium oiled lanes.

yeah but my Hell raiser revenge is drilled pin down for max hook/arc so i decided to get another aggressive ball that will be pin up but only problem with my other aggressive bowling balls they are 15 and 16lb i have had to go down to a 14lb ball because of wrist problem planing on getting it checked this summer

[striker12]

interesting choice, when are you planning on getting it? and what will it be replacing in your bag?

yeah as bill said its going to kinda replacing my Hell raiser revenge its just going to be drilled different with pin up the HRR is pin down but the ball that i will be taking out of my bag will be the kinetic pearl because i really have no need for it, it was just a backup spare ball for split so i can hook to ball backwards just enough.

and im planning on placing the order for the nexus solid on saturday when i go bowling and hopping to get it the following saturday.

[striker12]

just called up the bowling allie to see if the proshop was open but it was not i wanted to ask him a question so then i asked the front desk and i asked how do they oil the lanes on saturday for the jr league and they said every other week and sometimes they will do it back to back to just to keep us on are toes rather then get use to going back and forth they will put down a box pattern some what like the us open but with eather more volume of oil or longer down.


now ik why i have abit of a problem there i cant play streght up fully i always cross boards but after this i have read a few thing and the things i read said if are not fully able to bowl streght up fine the target you want to throw down and move your target 3 boards left (for righty) and see if you hit the target you want to go streght up and just adjust left and right from there until you find the spot to look at. so i'm going to try this on saturday but i'm not fully sure if this is true or not if anyone else has any tips or drills to work on throwing streght up please share.

[striker12]

talked to my proshop today about the bowling ball and at first he sujested a few other balls to me to think of soo i looked at them in his book then it came down to 2 balls the defiant edge and the nexus the nexus there with out drilling or taxes was $244 holy crap and the defiant edge was $222 i will go with defiant edge he said he will benafit me more cause it will hook great and i will be able to have a little error to the right of target but not much maby 2 boards and will also help me with playing streght up more