How many balls does a house league need

[MICHAEL]

Can a person take too many bowling balls with them to league? Now I am talking House oil, not sports! I have been told by some teammates to just bring 3 balls max to league! They say I change balls to quickly, and often!

Hey I am just trying to find the Right tool, for the right job!! ( Getting that puppy into the pocket and making strikes)!
I am beginning to think that they just might be right!

Could it be that instead of trying to find the right BALL, I should be working on finding the right release, position, and arrows to use?

I know sports patterns are a whole new ball game, but on your week after week all winter long THS, is it True that most bowlers only need a 3 ball bag!

Should Iceman leave his 6 bagger home, and save it for when he does sports patterns?
Do I have that dreaded disease,,, ( Ball-U-lid ice)?? Iceman

[Amyers]

Ice there is nothing wrong with taking 6 to league with you now if your putting them all on the ball return that is annoying (have some guys in my house that do). I only own the one ball but I have always though outside of sport conditions one could do fine with three strike balls and a spare ball. You should have one that is your middle of the road (your favorite and something that reads the lane well), something with a similar shape that is weaker for if you need to ball down, and lastly something stronger maybe with a different shape if you need to move inside or just need a different look.

If you use too many different balls it does lead to not knowing your equipment well enough and matching equipment is an art. It doesn't do you much good to have a good shot for 2 games with an arc ball and then ball down to a skid flip that's playing an entire different part of the lane.

Multiple balls are more for being able to stay in one particular part of the lane as the lane transitions not because that one doesn't look good lets try this one.

[MICHAEL]

Ice there is nothing wrong with taking 6 to league with you now if your putting them all on the ball return that is annoying (have some guys in my house that do). I only own the one ball but I have always though outside of sport conditions one could do fine with three strike balls and a spare ball. You should have one that is your middle of the road (your favorite and something that reads the lane well), something with a similar shape that is weaker for if you need to ball down, and lastly something stronger maybe with a different shape if you need to move inside or just need a different look.

If you use too many different balls it does lead to not knowing your equipment well enough and matching equipment is an art. It doesn't do you much good to have a good shot for 2 games with an arc ball and then ball down to a skid flip that's playing an entire different part of the lane.

Multiple balls are more for being able to stay in one particular part of the lane as the lane transitions not because that one doesn't look good lets try this one.


NO,,, I don't put all 6 on the ball return area. I always put my go to ball on top, and my spare ball underneath at our lanes. Most lanes around here have a double rack system now days, knowing that most modern bowlers use a spare ball along with their Go-to-ball!

I think that bring too many balls might be a mistake in my case! I find myself not exploring the options that a given ball offers, due to the Limited Time involved in bowing just 3 games. ITs not always a ball that's NOT WORKING, more times then not, its me not taking advantage of what a GIVEN BALL has to OFFER!


How I play THAT ball, ( targeting, speed, hand, timing ect ect) I am almost sure I change balls too often,,, I need to talk to a Coach!

[Mudpuppy]

You only need one ball Iceman - the deadly aim

[MICHAEL]

you only need one ball iceman - the deadly aim



you got that right!!

[vdubtx]

Hey I am just trying to find the Right tool, for the right job!! ( Getting that puppy into the pocket and making strikes)!
I am beginning to think that they just might be right!


Depends why you are changing balls. I don't see reactions on a house shot change all that much, you are likely changing balls due to something physical in the shot vs. the ball not doing it's thing. By physical I mean, your release differing, rotations, break point or target on lane not the same each shot etc...

[rv driver]

yeah, i was just going to say that THS really doesn't change enough to warrant that many balls. I'd say 3 is enough: aggressive, weaker/drier, and spare. And sometimes you can use the weaker ball as a spare ball.

[RobLV1]

Talk about perfect timing! For those of who don't know it yet, Bowling This Month is back up an running as an online publication. I just submitted my latest article this morning that deals with this very subject: how to set up a league arsenal and how many balls should be in it. If you haven't already done so, go to the BTM website and subscribe - it's well worth it.

[mike_thomas93]

I second rv driver. I'd also say 3 would be enough. or 3 and your spare ball. One can be for heavy to start, then middle of the road, and then one for when it breaks down.

[MICHAEL]

Talk about perfect timing! For those of who don't know it yet, Bowling This Month is back up an running as an online publication. I just submitted my latest article this morning that deals with this very subject: how to set up a league arsenal and how many balls should be in it. If you haven't already done so, go to the BTM website and subscribe - it's well worth it.


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[bowl1820]

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[MICHAEL]

I second rv driver. I'd also say 3 would be enough. or 3 and your spare ball. One can be for heavy to start, then middle of the road, and then one for when it breaks down.


You know on a typical house pattern, ( if that animal actually exists ),,, I am thinking 3 myself,,, but its going to be hard deciding the other ONE?

Deadly Aim

spare ball, my, new secret weapon for 10 pins,,, Sling Shot


Then what,, solid ball???? What about my new Byte??? or the New DV8 I got a month ago,,, Damn that second ball is going to be though to pick! My solid Lucid??? The Beatdown,,,, IQ pearl.... I have close to 20 balls...

MAYBE I NEED TO BRING 4 balls,,,, that would make it a little easier,,, 5 balls would make it real easy,,,, but Hey its a 6 ball bag, why not stick that extra one in my new storm 6 bagger for balance!!!

I think I have come up with a solution!!

6 balls, but only use 3,,,, maybe!!

[tccstudent]

My solid Lucid???
how did you turn a pearl ball into a solid?????????

If it is a house you are bowling league in you should be familiar enough with how that they play as to know which balls to bring. Normally one a house shot I have two balls in my bag that I would consider pulling out besides my plastic. My fusion and my genius. The only time the genius is coming out lately is when I cant carry the corners. Right now in summer leagues I am averaging 15 pins higher then what i finished in fall by mainly throwing a Mike White Special IQ Tour Fusion.

[Hampe]

If it's a center and conditions you're familiar with, you probably will never need more than 2 strike balls and 1 spare ball. If your house is like mine, and there's a 10% chance you never know what your gonna get on the lane, you might want to take 1-2 extra just in case (but DON'T feel obligated to use them just because they're there).

Bottom line Ice, take all 6 with you, just don't switch 'em so often. Lugging a 6 ball bag around is a good way to show off your guns :D.

[MICHAEL]

If it's a center and conditions you're familiar with, you probably will never need more than 2 strike balls and 1 spare ball. If your house is like mine, and there's a 10% chance you never know what your gonna get on the lane, you might want to take 1-2 extra just in case (but DON'T feel obligated to use them just because they're there).

Bottom line Ice, take all 6 with you, just don't switch 'em so often. Lugging a 6 ball bag around is a good way to show off your guns :D.

Good advise Hampe! Yes when I load that 6 ball bag, without taking it apart, that's when the guns come in handy! LOL (takes to long to take them apart)! Put the back seat down on my prius,,,, up and in!!! real quick, saves time, and at my age, that's a good thing!! (:)

[MICHAEL]

[QUOTE=tccstudent;110626]how did you turn a pearl ball into a solid?????????




MAGIC

[tccstudent]

[QUOTE=tccstudent;110626]how did you turn a pearl ball into a solid?????????




MAGIC
So can we call you MAGIC MIKE now

[Aslan]

Talk about perfect timing! For those of who don't know it yet, Bowling This Month is back up an running as an online publication. I just submitted my latest article this morning that deals with this very subject: how to set up a league arsenal and how many balls should be in it. If you haven't already done so, go to the BTM website and subscribe - it's well worth it.

I was going to ask for the link, but Bowl1820 was Johnny on the spot.

To offer my uneducated (cuz I aint read the article yet) opinion:

TWO THINGS:
1) I'd say 4.
2) It's more dependent on WHY you make ball changes.

You could bring 1000 bowling balls with you...so long as you only make 1-3 ball changes maximum. In which case...why bring 1000???

One of my pet peeves is actually people who bring 6-9 balls with them, on a THS shot, and they change balls for virtually no reason other than their last shot missed or didn't strike. I always say, it should be a RULE that IF you are going to make a ball change...you have to actually know WHY!!

I have 3 balls I use. I have a system for when I change from one to another to another to another. I can tell you, for a fact...so far this season...I have maybe had to make a ball change ONCE. On a league night, even with 5-person teams...it's maybe happened once in the 3rd game of the series...more than halfway through the 3rd game. The lanes just don't break down like they do for the pros. You have 10 players...playing all different lines...moving oil in every direction. Maybe part of that is I start at board 7. Maybe if you start at boards 9-11 (where most players are throwing) it changes faster. But if you're making a ball change a game...thats 3 balls plus a spare ball (total = 4).

As to my personal approach (uneducated at this point) to making an arsenal...some of it is what balls you currently have dependent on that...but GENERALLY....

- I would want one "big hook", angular, assymetric core ball.
- I would want one symmetric core, solid coverstock ball. (For when the above ball is moving way too much or isn't controllable)
- I would want one pearl or hybrid coverstock, symmetric core ball (For drier conditions when its tough keeping the ball right of the pocket)
- I would want ball used for spares, whether plastic, or urethane, or a low differential, pearl or hybrid reactive resin. (Because I don't like flattening out my wrist on my release)

Currently I don't have an "arsenal" because I lack the first one on the list. I'll be solving that problem in a week and a half or 2 1/2 weeks when I pay Mr. White a visit. By not having the first one on the list, I have had a LOT of trouble competing with folks on heavier oil with my non-existent rev rate. I don't have the revs to make either of my symmetric core balls (regardless of coverstocks) go out to the break point (from the inside) and get back to the pocket. I'm hoping (still just a theory) that a more aggressive core ball will help me with that and open up the left side of the lane to me. And ball drilling is important because if you have a ball that kinda fits in there...but maybe isn't exactly the right fit...rather than selling it on Ebay...getting it drilled a little more or less aggressively could get it to fit.

I acutally get made fun of each league night for using TWO balls!! 3 of the 5 players are beginners and don't understand why I don't throw the same ball at right side spares (anymore, I used to). I can't imagine their jeers when I start switching strike balls.

[Shaneshu87]

[QUOTE=MICHAEL;110643]
So can we call you MAGIC MIKE now

YES! BAHAHAHA!

[MICHAEL]

[QUOTE=Aslan;110682]I was going to ask for the link, but Bowl1820 was Johnny on the spot.

To offer my uneducated (cuz I aint read the article yet) opinion:

TWO THINGS:
1) I'd say 4.
2) It's more dependent on WHY you make ball changes.

You could bring 1000 bowling balls with you...so long as you only make 1-3 ball changes maximum. In which case...why bring 1000???

One of my pet peeves is actually people who bring 6-9 balls with them, on a THS shot, and they change balls for virtually no reason other than their last shot missed or didn't strike. I always say, it should be a RULE that IF you are going to make a ball change...you have to actually know WHY!!

I have 3 balls I use. I have a system for when I change from one to another to another to another. I can tell you, for a fact...so far this season...I have maybe had to make a ball change ONCE. On a league night, even with 5-person teams...it's maybe happened once in the 3rd game of the series...more than halfway through the 3rd game. The lanes just don't break down like they do for the pros. You have 10 players...playing all different lines...moving oil in every direction. Maybe part of that is I start at board 7. Maybe if you start at boards 9-11 (where most players are throwing) it changes faster. But if you're making a ball change a game...thats 3 balls plus a spare ball (total = 4).

As to my personal approach (uneducated at this point) to making an arsenal...some of it is what balls you currently have dependent on that...but GENERALLY....

- I would want one "big hook", angular, assymetric core ball.
- I would want one symmetric core, solid coverstock ball. (For when the above ball is moving way too much or isn't controllable)
- I would want one pearl or hybrid coverstock, symmetric core ball (For drier conditions when its tough keeping the ball right of the pocket)
- I would want ball used for spares, whether plastic, or urethane, or a low differential, pearl or hybrid reactive resin. (Because I don't like flattening out my wrist on my release)

We think alike! I was thinking a huge angular Byte asymmetrical ball, but also the Deadly Aim which is also Asymmetiical, but a different movement into the pocket/ The BYTE is VERY snappy,,, where as the Deadl Aim does a nice gradual arc into the pocket on house oil!

Then I was thinking that IQ Pearl that gave me that perfect game a while back on house oil... symmetrical...

And the sling shot for pesky 10 pins, and a few others!

[Shaneshu87]

i take 5 honestly, i often practice with two of my "Go too" balls but i have two asymmetric balls one solid and one pearl for the dryer conditions depending on how the lanes are transitioning.

[Aslan]

We think alike! I was thinking a huge angular Byte asymmetrical ball, but also the Deadly Aim which is also Asymmetiical, but a different movement into the pocket/ The BYTE is VERY snappy,,, where as the Deadl Aim does a nice gradual arc into the pocket on house oil!

Then I was thinking that IQ Pearl that gave me that perfect game a while back on house oil... symmetrical...

And the sling shot for pesky 10 pins, and a few others![/COLOR]

The only thing I don't like about a IQ Pearl, BYTE, Deadly Aim, Slingshot arsenal is:

1) I could have bought 7 first quality balls for what those are going for. Too overpriced.
2) You have no solid coverstock ball. 2 Pearls and a Hybrid

Now, the IQ has a lower differential...so "theoretically"...it should behave different than the BYTE....I just wonder if it would be better to replace either the deadly aim OR the BYTE with a solid coverstock ball? Maybe not. I guess the Hybrid Deadly Aim could serve as the "solid".

I wonder (from the more "experts" of the group) what a solid coverstock ball that a Pearl would fail at. I know solids tend to hook sooner and grab more in oil...but would a low-mid-range solid coverstock (like the Rumble, Hy Road Solid, or IQ Solid) really gain more traction and hit the pocket where a high end Pearl (like the BYTE), even with it's higher end, assymetric type, core...wouldn't make it back?

[RobLV1]

Aslan: It all depends on the bowler's style and what he is comfortable seeing. Personally my arsenal contains no pearl balls whatsoever, and yet there are no "holes" in my arsenal. I just don't like the way they over/under react. There is no right or wrong, there is only what works for the individual bowler in terms of equipment.

[Amyers]

The only thing I don't like about a IQ Pearl, BYTE, Deadly Aim, Slingshot arsenal is:

1) I could have bought 7 first quality balls for what those are going for. Too overpriced.
2) You have no solid coverstock ball. 2 Pearls and a Hybrid

Now, the IQ has a lower differential...so "theoretically"...it should behave different than the BYTE....I just wonder if it would be better to replace either the deadly aim OR the BYTE with a solid coverstock ball? Maybe not. I guess the Hybrid Deadly Aim could serve as the "solid".

I wonder (from the more "experts" of the group) what a solid coverstock ball that a Pearl would fail at. I know solids tend to hook sooner and grab more in oil...but would a low-mid-range solid coverstock (like the Rumble, Hy Road Solid, or IQ Solid) really gain more traction and hit the pocket where a high end Pearl (like the BYTE), even with it's higher end, assymetric type, core...wouldn't make it back?

In general if it doesn't come back with the BYTE it ain't coming back period.

The biggest thing I see here other than the slingshot what are you going to throw on light oil. These all look like bigger hooking balls on the fresh not an issue most likely but if this is going to be your regular arsenal I would look for a little lower end piece light oil ball trade out the IQ pearl you can mail it to me :cool:

[MICHAEL]

In general if it doesn't come back with the BYTE it ain't coming back period.

The biggest thing I see here other than the slingshot what are you going to throw on light oil. These all look like bigger hooking balls on the fresh not an issue most likely but if this is going to be your regular arsenal I would look for a little lower end piece light oil ball trade out the IQ pearl you can mail it to me :cool:



YOU KNOW at Gladstone Bowling alley, ( the lanes that I transferred to after AMF CLOSED DOWN), I can honestly say I really only seem to need
TWO ball, no matter what team I am bowling.

The Deadly Aim, and the Drilled WEAK Sling Shot for 10 pins mainly!

They are 3 and 4 person teams, and that Deadly Aim works regardless as to who we are bowling. High Rev eat the oil up types, or low rev types?

ANOTHER STRANGE thing about the Hammer ball is that I don't have to more left at all, sometimes 3 boards at most, bowling 3 games!!

It's an amazing ball with that carbon fiber mixed into the outer surface.

None of my other balls have its movement into the pocket, it literally crushes the pins, in a stealthy way, keeping the wood low, with lots of pin action!

I think at this house, I will dig my old two ball bag out of the attic! Things might change this winter, along with the humidity , and cooler weather.

So Just for kicks I might bring one of my other babies in a single bag that I can slip onto the handle of my double!

I can't really see so far any reason, regardless of who we have bowled that would warrant the need for anything other then the



DEADLY-AIM

[classygranny]

Thread: How many balls does a house league need

In regard to the actual question....it depends on how many bowlers are in the league. Each bowler should have at least one ball, as sharing is usually frowned upon.

[MICHAEL]

Thread: How many balls does a house league need

In regard to the actual question....it depends on how many bowlers are in the league. Each bowler should have at least one ball, as sharing is usually frowned upon.

shouldn't you be in bed???

[classygranny]

shouldn't you be in bed???

ME??? It's later at the No Pole than it is here in Phoenix (9:30) and besides, the Diamondbacks are still losing...I mean playing.

And obviously, I can read better than you can type - no matter the time of day/night...lol

[tccstudent]

Thread: How many balls does a house league need

In regard to the actual question....it depends on how many bowlers are in the league. Each bowler should have at least one ball, as sharing is usually frowned upon.

why on one of my leagues earlier this year right after I got my genius drilled 3 of the 4 guys on my team threw my genius all night

[MICHAEL]

ME??? It's later at the No Pole than it is here in Phoenix (9:30) and besides, the Diamondbacks are still losing...I mean playing.

And obviously, I can read better than you can type - no matter the time of day/night...lol

Nothing on this planet is obvious granny!! Like,,, your profile picture is a dog,,, ARE YOU REALLY a DOG?? If not Post a current picture! I wish everyone posted a Real Picture of themselves,,, makes it easier to visualize them as I read their threads! When I read your, I picture a dog! :)

I remember my creative writing teacher once said to me! "Ice", its not the grammar, or spelling, its your content that excites me!! Your writtings are the reason I give you A's, and stay up all night reading your creative crap!!" LOL

Nothing is obvious granny,,,, are YOU indeed a granny, or for that matter a female? On the internet, ask Bill, you can be ANYBODY you want! LOL

That's why I say TRUST, but verify! Who are you in reality,,,, A short squatty long dog, or Classy Granny!?

[Aslan]

In general if it doesn't come back with the BYTE it ain't coming back period.

The biggest thing I see here other than the slingshot what are you going to throw on light oil. These all look like bigger hooking balls on the fresh not an issue most likely but if this is going to be your regular arsenal I would look for a little lower end piece light oil ball trade out the IQ pearl you can mail it to me :cool:

Agreed. Both on the BYTE and the hole being lighter oil. I would say on lighter/drier conditions, he can use the Slingshot. I use the Slingshot as my spare ball (as does Iceman, so I KNOW I'm doing the right thing!) BUT I will also use it up the 12-board for a very straight shot on very dry lanes What I would call my "D-Game". But unless you're on wood lanes…or bowling after a holiday weekend…I never need to resort to that. But you're right, I have the Frantic to ball down to and I'm not sure if switching to the IQ is really "balling down" since it's a monster hooking ball as well.


Aslan: It all depends on the bowler's style and what he is comfortable seeing. Personally my arsenal contains no pearl balls whatsoever, and yet there are no "holes" in my arsenal. I just don't like the way they over/under react. There is no right or wrong, there is only what works for the individual bowler in terms of equipment. Agreed. Thats why I think since at least one of the balls is a hybrid…he's got his bases covered. If it was 3 pearl balls…only pearl balls…I'd probably be more concerned. And like I said, you can always change ball reactions a bit through drilling/surfacing…so every cover stock isn't an imperative.


Thread: How many balls does a house league need

In regard to the actual question....it depends on how many bowlers are in the league. Each bowler should have at least one ball, as sharing is usually frowned upon. HA! Thats funny!


On the internet, ask Bill, you can be ANYBODY you want!
HA! Thats funny too!