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Timmyb
01-31-2017, 10:34 PM
Going to redo my brother's bowling ball, a Storm Fight that seems to work best for him polished. Need a recommendation on a good polish to buy.

bowl1820
01-31-2017, 11:05 PM
Going to redo my brother's bowling ball, a Storm Fight that seems to work best for him polished. Need a recommendation on a good polish to buy.

Pretty much any of the polishes from Ebonite Powerhouse, Brunswick or Storm would work well and are usually the easiest to find.

So just depends on what surface your going for.

Currently I'm using Brunswick Royal Shine & Royal Compound (Brunswick has changed to Crown Factory Compound & Crown Factory Polish now).

Powerhouse factory Finish Polish is a widely use one, along with Storm Step 2 and Extra Shine

FYI:
The Storm Fight has a OOB 3000 Abralon surface:

Resurfacing to a 3000-grit Factory Finish
Resurface to the original factory finish using a ball spinner.
1. 500-grit Abralon® - Sand for 30 seconds on all four sides with firm pressure.
2. 3000-grit Abralon® - Sand for 10 seconds on all four sides with light pressure

KYDave
01-31-2017, 11:10 PM
Hands down Valentino Snake Oil. Made in AZ by a small company.
It goes on easy, lasts a long time, and very little grit so it will not effect the underlying finish as much as most of the grit based polishes.

Here is a ball I just finished with 500/2000/SO

http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y354/kjmike95/bowling/d556e85a-6604-4e2d-86a7-37c20bc841cb_zpsse9r36rf.jpg (http://s1029.photobucket.com/user/kjmike95/media/bowling/d556e85a-6604-4e2d-86a7-37c20bc841cb_zpsse9r36rf.jpg.html)


http://valentinobowling.com/Snake-Oil_c_8.html

KYDave
01-31-2017, 11:18 PM
1820- I thought I was the only one who never sleeps haha.

I'll also add I've tried the Black Magic. It did its job but it doesn't seem to hold up as well as others I've tried.

Timmyb
02-01-2017, 01:21 AM
Resurfacing to a 3000-grit Factory Finish
Resurface to the original factory finish using a ball spinner.
1. 500-grit Abralon® - Sand for 30 seconds on all four sides with firm pressure.
2. 3000-grit Abralon® - Sand for 10 seconds on all four sides with light pressure

I was warned by my PSO to NOT do the step resurfacing (500, then 3000) with any Storm ball. Not sure why, but I know I did it to my IQ Nano, it wasn't right for a while.

RobLV1
02-01-2017, 05:00 AM
I was warned by my PSO to NOT do the step resurfacing (500, then 3000) with any Storm ball. Not sure why, but I know I did it to my IQ Nano, it wasn't right for a while.

He wants to sell you a new ball! LOL This may not be the worst advice I've ever heard given by a PSO, but it's definitely in the top five.

Timmyb
02-01-2017, 07:08 AM
He wants to sell you a new ball! LOL This may not be the worst advice I've ever heard given by a PSO, but it's definitely in the top five.

I thought it was a little odd myself. He does step sand everything else, he just won't do it to a Storm ball. He's very well respected in the area, and he's done wonders for my game in the past 1.5 years, so I have to assume he has his reasons or theories.

bowl1820
02-01-2017, 10:46 AM
I was warned by my PSO to NOT do the step resurfacing (500, then 3000) with any Storm ball. Not sure why, but I know I did it to my IQ Nano, it wasn't right for a while.

Not knowing his reasons for the statement, we can't really comment on whether he's right or wrong.

Now if he meant don't use the Storm recommended steps for getting the OOB surfaces, That's not unheard of. There's many that feel those steps don't reproduce the OOB correctly.

Now when he said don't do the "step resurfacing (500, then 3000)" on any Storm ball, if he meant don't do a "skip a grit" resurfacing (which going 500 then 3000 would be) on any Storm ball that doesn't make any sense.

Storm balls are no different than any other, in that you can use whatever resurfacing steps you want. As long as it gives you the final surface texture and ball reaction you want.

It would be interesting to ask him, his reasoning behind the statement.

RobLV1
02-01-2017, 10:54 AM
Bowl1820: Have you ever considered applying for a position in the Diplomatic Corps? LOL

Timmyb
02-01-2017, 11:30 AM
Not knowing his reasons for the statement, we can't really comment on whether he's right or wrong.

Now if he meant don't use the Storm recommended steps for getting the OOB surfaces, That's not unheard of. There's many that feel those steps don't reproduce the OOB correctly.

Now when he said don't do the "step resurfacing (500, then 3000)" on any Storm ball, if he meant don't do a "skip a grit" resurfacing (which going 500 then 3000 would be) on any Storm ball that doesn't make any sense.

Storm balls are no different than any other, in that you can use whatever resurfacing steps you want. As long as it gives you the final surface texture and ball reaction you want.

It would be interesting to ask him, his reasoning behind the statement.

I'm going to be baking the ball, anyway. I'll scuff with the 500, sweat it, then do the 3000 and polish. I'll keep my fingers crossed while I'm doing this.

fokai73
02-01-2017, 12:19 PM
I like Snake Oil after years of using the other brands. Before snake oil, I bowled at another house (closed down now) over a decade ago and I loved Beans Secret Sauce. Lane #1 bought the rights to it and I haven't used it since I found out about snake oil the year it came out. These two polishes gave me what I'm looking for in a polish. Easy to work with, last longer, and the length I needed to store some pop at the end of the pattern.

About your PSO..... does he repair divots by shaving it with a bevel knife too? geez.....

Timmyb
02-01-2017, 04:45 PM
One more shot at my PSO, and I'm going to get a little pissed. The guy is damn good. If he does one thing different then what a couple of people here think is right, there's probably a damn good reason for it. Last I checked, are any of you running your own shop? If you're not, you have no ground to stand on.

chip82901
02-01-2017, 06:16 PM
One thing I've noticed is when baking a ball, DO NOT use dry heat! Submerge the ball in water before hand. I promise you, absolutely ZERO signs of cracking out. I've seen MANY balls crack due to dry heat baking. Also, as for polish on that Fight, on my Street Fight, to get the length I was looking for in it, I've been using the Storm Xtra Shine. Just a nice light coating about every 30 games or so, or when I notice its not getting the length I want anymore.

Timmyb
02-01-2017, 09:22 PM
One thing I've noticed is when baking a ball, DO NOT use dry heat! Submerge the ball in water before hand. I promise you, absolutely ZERO signs of cracking out. I've seen MANY balls crack due to dry heat baking. Also, as for polish on that Fight, on my Street Fight, to get the length I was looking for in it, I've been using the Storm Xtra Shine. Just a nice light coating about every 30 games or so, or when I notice its not getting the length I want anymore.


I do put a little dish of water in the dehydrator before I start cooking. I also don't let the temp get over 135. I did the 500/3000, and the ball looks like my Fight, which I've always kept in OOB condition.

https://s27.postimg.org/ya6t5g69b/50767741947_C1314_FF4_CE17_455_D_819_D_46_A6852483 9.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ya6t5g69b/)

Aslan
02-02-2017, 07:14 AM
This thread is about something different than...what I thought it was about.

:confused:

Timmyb
02-02-2017, 10:22 AM
This thread is about something different than...what I thought it was about.

:confused:


I was concerned after I named the thread as to how you would see this.....:rolleyes:

KYDave
02-02-2017, 01:02 PM
Timmy-
Do you leave the little dish of water in there with the ball all thru the heating process?

Timmyb
02-02-2017, 01:40 PM
Timmy-
Do you leave the little dish of water in there with the ball all thru the heating process?

Yes, I do. We're talking it's like 2 tablespoons of water. I run the tap as hot as I can, otherwise it really wouldn't do much. I'm not terribly sure it does anything in the first place, but I had seen this recommended by some others that built their own ovens.

KYDave
02-02-2017, 03:32 PM
Yes, I do. We're talking it's like 2 tablespoons of water. I run the tap as hot as I can, otherwise it really wouldn't do much. I'm not terribly sure it does anything in the first place, but I had seen this recommended by some others that built their own ovens.

Ok I may try that. I know the sweatbox used a container of water under the ball. Thought about giving it a try until I saw it was $700+ lol. If I were to spend that much I'd just pay the extra and get a Jayhawk detox