Contest Jun 23, 2014 to Jun 29, 2014 - Roto Grip Asylum

[bowl1820]

Would anyone care to expound on the real differences between Roto Grip and Storm? Is there a fundamental difference in philosophy of approach to the ball, or is it simply aesthetics/branding?

I like Roto Grip have several.

Roto to me has always been the best "Bang for the Buck" balls. They had just as good performance as Storm and I think better quality.

Back in the day when Storm was known for balls that died after just a few games (Thankfully they fixed that), Rotos just kept going.

Roto usually had thicker covers too, so were less prone to cracking.

They were cheaper than Storm too.

[tccstudent]

Roto Grip products are manufactured at Storm Products, Inc. in Brigham City, UT. Roto Grip was purchased by Storm in 1997 and since then all balls have been made in Utah. Roto Grip designs their own cores and covers to be unique and not similar to Storm balls. Although you should see some similarities in our products because they are made on the same manufacturing lines.

[rv driver]

Roto Grip products are manufactured at Storm Products, Inc. in Brigham City, UT. Roto Grip was purchased by Storm in 1997 and since then all balls have been made in Utah. Roto Grip designs their own cores and covers to be unique and not similar to Storm balls. Although you should see some similarities in our products because they are made on the same manufacturing lines.

Sooo... the cores are "brand-unique?" Is there some general characteristic per brand, or some brand-specific philosophy? "Roto Grip balls are generally this way, while Storm balls focus ore on the other" type of thing? Because all I'm really seeing is brand loyalty for its own sake. Unless I'm missing something?

[Amyers]

Sooo... the cores are "brand-unique?" Is there some general characteristic per brand, or some brand-specific philosophy? "Roto Grip balls are generally this way, while Storm balls focus ore on the other" type of thing? Because all I'm really seeing is brand loyalty for its own sake. Unless I'm missing something?

Nope you pretty much got it some people like one or the other some mix them up. They are different but there is no over reaching philosophy that I've seen. The marketing to me for roto tends to be styled towards a younger generation than storms but as far as actual roll goes I haven't seen anything. I see a lot of both at my home lanes as our shop is a big roto/storm dealer. They both make good stuff

[MICHAEL]

Nope you pretty much got it some people like one or the other some mix them up. They are different but there is no over reaching philosophy that I've seen. The marketing to me for roto tends to be styled towards a younger generation than storms but as far as actual roll goes I haven't seen anything. I see a lot of both at my home lanes as our shop is a big roto/storm dealer. They both make good stuff

God knows I mix them up!! I now have, I believe 18 balls,,, Storm, Hammer, Brunswick, Dv8. Like father Flanagan of Boy's Town Once said:
"There is no such thing as a BAD BOY!"

Iceman says, there is no such thing as a bad high end bowling ball!!! LOL They are all good, just need to be drilled correctly for your style of bowling! (

[rv driver]

God knows I mix them up!! I now have, I believe 18 balls,,, Storm, Hammer, Brunswick, Dv8. Like father Flanagan of Boy's Town Once said:
"There is no such thing as a BAD BOY!"

Iceman says, there is no such thing as a bad high end bowling ball!!! LOL They are all good, just need to be drilled correctly for your style of bowling! (

My wife says I'm a bad boy...

[tccstudent]

My wife says I'm a bad boy...

im not touching that one or it could get really weird in here

[Amyers]

im not touching that one or it could get really weird in here

As if it is not weird in here already?

[bowl1820]

Sooo... the cores are "brand-unique?" Is there some general characteristic per brand, or some brand-specific philosophy? "Roto Grip balls are generally this way, while Storm balls focus ore on the other" type of thing? Because all I'm really seeing is brand loyalty for its own sake. Unless I'm missing something?

I think maybe what you want to hear is something like what they said back in day. When they said things like:

Brunswick made Rolly, arc type balls.
(Which by the way gave them a unfair rep as being weak balls and still haunts them to this day. And is part of the reason they started DV8. )

Columbia/Track made the hook monster heavy oil balls.

Storm made the long and strong, flippy balls.

and that's why someone buys company A over company B.

But you can't really do that anymore, Like Amyers said while the companies are different and have some differing design elements (Cores, coverstocks etc.).

The companies today in general make comparable products because they have the same philosophy "make what sells".

I don't believe that's it's all brand loyalty for its own sake though.

Some brands tend to work better for certain bowlers than others, So there's some design element at play there.
And bowlers tend to stick with what works.

Like back in the past, I didn't know squat about the numbers. But I noticed that certain core shapes worked better for me than others. so I picked balls with cores that had similar shapes and only certain companies had those shapes

Which worked pretty well at the time.

Example I stuck with Hammer for a long time because of a certain core type they used (their "3D Offset Core"). Nobody else had that shape at the time, so stuck with Hammer.

Later I got the Track EMB, because the core in it was a similar shape to the Offset. It was one of my favorite balls.

You Can't really go by shape anymore, cores are not quite as hummmm simplistic in design as they use to be.

[rv driver]

I think maybe what you want to hear is something like what they said back in day. When they said things like:

Brunswick made Rolly, arc type balls.
(Which by the way gave them a unfair rep as being weak balls and still haunts them to this day. And is part of the reason they started DV8. )

Columbia/Track made the hook monster heavy oil balls.

Storm made the long and strong, flippy balls.

and that's why someone buys company A over company B.

But you can't really do that anymore, Like Amyers said while the companies are different and have some differing design elements (Cores, coverstocks etc.).

The companies today in general make comparable products because they have the same philosophy "make what sells".

I don't believe that's it's all brand loyalty for its own sake though.

Some brands tend to work better for certain bowlers than others, So there's some design element at play there.
And bowlers tend to stick with what works.

Like back in the past, I didn't know squat about the numbers. But I noticed that certain core shapes worked better for me than others. so I picked balls with cores that had similar shapes and only certain companies had those shapes

Which worked pretty well at the time.

Example I stuck with Hammer for a long time because of a certain core type they used (their "3D Offset Core"). Nobody else had that shape at the time, so stuck with Hammer.

Later I got the Track EMB, because the core in it was a similar shape to the Offset. It was one of my favorite balls.

You Can't really go by shape anymore, cores are not quite as hummmm simplistic in design as they use to be.

Thanks! From what I'm gathering, a lot of the balls have very similar numbers, so you look for what hits the best for you (has a lot to do with core), and go with that, regardless of brand.