If you could work on one area of your game what would it be?

[Tony]

AMYERS:
Since you have ruled out a number of items what's left. Type of ball ? Arm swing height, follow through, release point on the lane, how close to the foul line do you get.
It would stand to reason a reduction in ball weight should increase speed. Putting less hand into the release ?

I'm sure you have probably looked at most of these and more but there has to be some reason.
What would happen if you tested changing to late release timing where you put more speed on with the arm ?

My buddy is very resistant to change, he throws a motiv Jackal and it's been suggested he try a pearl less aggressive ball and go to a 5 step delivery but he insists that won't help, because he doesn't want to do it . lol

[Amyers]

AMYERS:
Since you have ruled out a number of items what's left. Type of ball ? Arm swing height, follow through, release point on the lane, how close to the foul line do you get.
It would stand to reason a reduction in ball weight should increase speed. Putting less hand into the release ?

I'm sure you have probably looked at most of these and more but there has to be some reason.
What would happen if you tested changing to late release timing where you put more speed on with the arm ?

My buddy is very resistant to change, he throws a motiv Jackal and it's been suggested he try a pearl less aggressive ball and go to a 5 step delivery but he insists that won't help, because he doesn't want to do it . lol

I have pearls and hybrids now don't own any solids as with the low speed not a good mix. I'm close to the line and use a five step delivery. I had a 14 lbs ball drilled up it raised the ball speed about .25 mph lol. I've tried the less hand thing one of the things I'm doing now about .25 to half mph difference. I've also went from lofting the ball more to a more up the back of the ball release with less loft doesn't really change anything there. The arm swing height maybe a factor I don't have a high back swing but a lot of other players with adequate ball speed don't either and anytime I've tried to mess with that my game just goes down the tube. I agree there must be a reason and it's probably several factors but I would think if the typical male my size can generate 15 mph ball speed for mine to be 11 mph something should be glaringly wrong shouldn't it?

[Tony]

I have pearls and hybrids now don't own any solids as with the low speed not a good mix. I'm close to the line and use a five step delivery. I had a 14 lbs ball drilled up it raised the ball speed about .25 mph lol. I've tried the less hand thing one of the things I'm doing now about .25 to half mph difference. I've also went from lofting the ball more to a more up the back of the ball release with less loft doesn't really change anything there. The arm swing height maybe a factor I don't have a high back swing but a lot of other players with adequate ball speed don't either and anytime I've tried to mess with that my game just goes down the tube. I agree there must be a reason and it's probably several factors but I would think if the typical male my size can generate 15 mph ball speed for mine to be 11 mph something should be glaringly wrong shouldn't it?

Yes, you would think it would be a little more identifiable. Have you ever posted a video and let all the coach type members take a look at it ? Might be worth trying.

[Aslan]

It got me thinking if you were going to work on one aspect of your game what would it be?

Release.

Then, probably release.

Once I fix the approach/timing issues (like the big first step and drifting right)...I MUST get a consistent axis tilt or reading the lanes is nearly impossible.

i.e. If I throw two balls the same speed at the same target...and one misses right and the other goes Brooklyn...It's usually because I had a flat release and then really got a good release. But I can't adjust off either because I don't know whether the next shot will be good or not.

[Blomer]

Reading the lanes. I'm can't do it at all till it's too late.

[Blomer]

Reading the lane for me.

[fokai73]

Mental game. I can't get this out of my mind - that I'll bowl 420-500 the first two games then shoot 175-190 games. For the third game I'm not trusting myself, not listening to my gut, and/or making bad choices in adjustments.
Games like these: 236 279 176, 266 256, 184, 250+ 220 179 for example. I did have a triplicate 235... But other than I suck at third games

[Timmyb]

Timing. I can stay pretty consistent, but here and there everything just gets out of whack the instant I start my approach. Sometimes I can catch myself, and either stop, or correct while in step. Those are rare moments. All of this is very obvious in my scoring. If I could keep somewhat consistent, I think I could finally see that 300 game. It's almost sickening that I can go and do what I did last night (6 games, 1351, 225 average), and I still don't have a 300 game to my name.

Amyers--Post a video if you can. Not everyone is capable of 15+ kind of speed. I average 17-18 (saw an 18.5 on the board after shooting at a split), but I've always had that kind of speed, and I actually throw faster as the night goes on. And trust me, I am NOT in any kind of what you'd call "shape" (5'11", 260). I've seen guys and girls that throw lower speed, and can ring the bell every time.

[mc_runner]

Reading the lanes for me. I can get into a bad place if I'm scrambling to try and catch up - gotta stay ahead.

Amyers, how's your spine tilt through your backswing and release? For me, that's how I generate speed (I throw at 16.5 - 16.8 at the pins). I have an unconscious "dip" after my pushaway that leads to much higher backswing and speed for me. Not saying it's a good thing but something I noticed in myself.

[RobLV1]

Mental game. I can't get this out of my mind - that I'll bowl 420-500 the first two games then shoot 175-190 games. For the third game I'm not trusting myself, not listening to my gut, and/or making bad choices in adjustments.
Games like these: 236 279 176, 266 256, 184, 250+ 220 179 for example. I did have a triplicate 235... But other than I suck at third games

Having a bad third game is very common among house bowlers who either can't bring themselves to making large enough lateral moves, or sticking with very aggressive balls for too long, or both. Where does your comfort zone end? How far left can you go before you feel like you can't get the ball back to the pocket?