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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    You probably wouldn't see a difference between Reacta-Shine and Step 2, however since virtually every Storm and Roto Grip ball that is polished is finished with Step Two, the purchase of one bottle would probably enable you to get rid of eight or nine others. Personally, I have used Step 2 on occasion, but there is one thing that I really don't like about it: it's brown color gets into the grooves of the logo and ball name and turns the graphics really ugly. For this reason I usually use Powerhouse Factory Finish to bring back the shine instead.
    thanks Rob,,, but Iceman is a little confused! Your saying not much difference between Reacta Shine and Step 2?

    Your also saying that MOST Storm and Rot Grip balls that are, or have a polished finish, need Step Two also?

    What exactly is Step 2?? Why after using say Reacta-Shine, should you use Step 2? If its another polish is it just a different grit, say 5000? MORE INFO please....Pro Finish System

    Step 2:
    Super Duty Finishing Compound Finishes 320/1500-grit

    OK this is what bowlingball.com has to say about the Step 2 product: WHAT,,,, huge difference between 320 and 1500! Reata-Shine is a 1500, with polish.... what is this 320 all about????????
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    Storm's Step 2 Has a coarser grit in it and takes the ball from a 320 base grit to 1500.

    Reacta Shine doesn't do that, it is just a 1500 grit polish

    These compounds, Rough Buff & Step 2 & clean'n sheen, are more like ultra aggressive polishes. They smooth out the underlying surface very quickly and very aggressively. They use a diminishing type grit which constantly breaks down into smaller and smaller pieces as you use it.
    (The new royal compound would be in this group also)

    Normal abrasive polishes, like Brunswick Factory Finish High gloss polish and Storm's Xtra Shine, have abrasives in the polish, but their main job is to polish. They do smooth the surface but not as much, nor as aggressively as Rough Buff and Step 2.

    Reacta-Shine is a cleaner polish and only has a very fine grit in it.

    Now if you didn't have Reacta-Shine you could get away with using Step #2 like Rob said. But you can't substitute Reacta-Shine for Step #2

    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    I don't get it??? It says on storm's web site that Reacta shine takes the ball surface to 1500? Does it?
    It all depends on what the underlaying grit is.
    Look at it this way, you can use reacta shine to maintain the surface, not to get it to that in the first place.


    storm's Step 2 has grit in it and it takes a ball from 320, to 1500, (can you explain how it does that ???)
    Step 2 it has a coarser grit in it, if you tried to take a ball sanded at 320 up to 1500 with just reacta shine it would take a long long long time.

    Reacta shine is a cleaner/polish with a finer grit to it

    When you talking 320 1500, are you referring to sand paper, or abralon pad?
    320 -1500 are referring to sandpaper grits
    In abralon those would be about 500 - 3000


    So Storm's step 2 does away with the need to sand the ball??? I guess you would at the least do the four side technique?
    No you still have to sand the ball, the underlaying textures of the other grits used are what get you to the final surface you want.
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    Bowl1820 is undoubtedly right. Personally, I find that if I use one of the three compounds that I normally use (Powerhouse Factory Finish, Storm Step Two, and Motiv Power Gel Polish), I can get a surface that works for me. That's the important thing, a surface that works for you. There is nothing sacred about the OOB finish. It is nothing more than the Marketing Department's best guess as to what surface will appeal to the highest percentage of the ball's target market. Find what works for you, and go with it!

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    bring it to a shop with the storm resurfacing machine

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    Thank you guys for all the responses and useful tips.
    I got some storm reacta form from the proshop for $10. Used it on my Byte and I have to say it did make a noticeable difference even on the lanes. I cleaned my Iq tour fusion but i didnt use that last night. Stock with the byte cuz we got the crap lanes that havent been oiled all week lol. bowled a 221-201-250. But imma have to keep all the other stuff in mind one i use the fusion more....but i should definitly use those other steps on my byte....its past the time you guys said lol

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    Default Thanks Al, and Rob!!!!

    YOU HAVE HELPED Iceman a bunch!! As you both know, I am new to bowling, but have a lot of tools, one being my Spinner, and now home made ball oven.

    The KEY to making all this fun stuff WORK, is knowledge! This finally makes sense, and both of you have helped make if VERY CLEAR! Thanks a bunch,,,,, off to the my bowling ball laboratory!!!! (

    ICEMAN needs to create a ball that will give HIM A 800 Series!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    YOU HAVE HELPED Iceman a bunch!! As you both know, I am new to bowling, but have a lot of tools, one being my Spinner, and now home made ball oven.

    The KEY to making all this fun stuff WORK, is knowledge! This finally makes sense, and both of you have helped make if VERY CLEAR! Thanks a bunch,,,,, off to the my bowling ball laboratory!!!! (

    ICEMAN needs to create a ball that will give HIM A 800 Series!!!
    you forgot to post this:


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    Sweet ,,,, mudpuppy!!!! LOL,,,, that's me, white hair and all!!! LMAO!! The Scientific Method,,, trial and error!!

    Read about Thomas Edison! (talk about trial and error) (,,, but look where it got him!!!
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