Iceman hates this

[MICHAEL]

Don't feel bad Ice. Even WRW misses a 10-pin....well, once every 100 times or so.

Thanks, bud, I don't feel bad, but it was frustrating!!! I had good luck with the sling shot before, and the different hand release! Then some
friends on a bad night said to use the same release that I use on my ball for all other shots! It was at the point that I started having huge problems.

I tried several other things that others mentioned, but to no avail!

I have, with the weak drilled slingshot, picked up as many as 10 one night several months ago, still remember clearly, only missed 1.

I am going to stick with this and hopefully it will be making the faces, and rocking back and forth sticking my tongue out at the FRICKEN 10 PIN!

[Amyers]

Thanks, bud, I don't feel bad, but it was frustrating!!! I had good luck with the sling shot before, and the different hand release! Then some
friends on a bad night said to use the same release that I use on my ball for all other shots! It was at the point that I started having huge problems.

I tried several other things that others mentioned, but to no avail!

I have, with the weak drilled slingshot, picked up as many as 10 one night several months ago, still remember clearly, only missed 1.

I am going to stick with this and hopefully it will be making the faces, and rocking back and forth sticking my tongue out at the FRICKEN 10 PIN!

I struggle with this too. I have been throwing a backup ball at them here lately. I seem to be hit or miss with it though if I'm on I hit them if I'm not it's not even close but it's better than trying to break my wrist can't seem to hit them at all that way.

[MICHAEL]

where in the heck did this shirt come from???

[Aslan]

I'm getting aggravated because I actually prefer to leave the 6-10 than the single 10…for some reason mentally I feel more confident I can pick up the 6-10 than the single-10.

But recently…I've been chopping the heck out of 6-10s. I end up chopping the 10-pin off the 6-10.

Statistically…I'm 58% at single-10 pins…which is still very low, but up from the 50-51% it was a month or so ago. However, I am 60% at 6-10 leaves. Again, overall spare shooting IS improving…but the single 10 is FAR and away my most common leave and the 6-10 is easily my second most common leave.

If I want to meet my goal this season of finishing with a 193 average, I need to keep improving my ability to pick up the 6-10 and single-10. And it's not necessarily about switching to a plastic ball…for me anyways…because for every 6-10 I chop when the Slingshot grabs the edge and straightens out into the 10-pin…there's an equal number of times that ability to "hold on" allows me to make the single 10-pin when a plastic ball would have fell into the gutter.

But whenever I get frustrated about the single 10-pin, I remind myself of something that Barry Asher told me at a clinic.

I left a single 10-pin and said;
"Gosh, that is so frustrating!"

He replied;
"Don't worry, it frustrates the pros as well. And the better you get, the more of those you'll leave."

So I look at it like that. I'm SUPPOSED TO leave single 10-pins. It means I'm hitting the pocket. Maybe not 100% ideally…or maybe I AM hitting it ideally and I just don't get the break. But at the end of day…a single 10-pin for a righty means you're bowling the way you're supposed to and you are very close to striking. You can't say that when you leave a 1-2-9…or a 3-6-10.

I was frustrated at Thursday leagues because I left the single-4-pin THREE times in 14 frames. I actually had to get my phone out and "google it" to see what the heck pin was supposed to be taking out the 4-pin but obviously wasn't. And my point in mentioning that is, EVEN THOUGH I'm FAR better at picking up a single 4-pin (69%)…it was MORE disturbing to leave that so often because I SHOULDN'T be leaving that pin.

[Aslan]

where in the heck did this shirt come from???

Holy SPAM Batman!!

Apparently Aslan's rumor spreading about Iceman's drug problem have even reached Canada!!

Why do people spam? I mean, if I see spam like this, there's NO WAY I'm buying their stuff. I mean, you're violating rules of a forum…intentionally, so what confidence do I have that your company is legitimate?? Not much. It's just stupid. IMO.

[rv driver]

I'm getting aggravated because I actually prefer to leave the 6-10 than the single 10…for some reason mentally I feel more confident I can pick up the 6-10 than the single-10.

But recently…I've been chopping the heck out of 6-10s. I end up chopping the 10-pin off the 6-10.

Statistically…I'm 58% at single-10 pins…which is still very low, but up from the 50-51% it was a month or so ago. However, I am 60% at 6-10 leaves. Again, overall spare shooting IS improving…but the single 10 is FAR and away my most common leave and the 6-10 is easily my second most common leave.

If I want to meet my goal this season of finishing with a 193 average, I need to keep improving my ability to pick up the 6-10 and single-10. And it's not necessarily about switching to a plastic ball…for me anyways…because for every 6-10 I chop when the Slingshot grabs the edge and straightens out into the 10-pin…there's an equal number of times that ability to "hold on" allows me to make the single 10-pin when a plastic ball would have fell into the gutter.

But whenever I get frustrated about the single 10-pin, I remind myself of something that Barry Asher told me at a clinic.

I left a single 10-pin and said;
"Gosh, that is so frustrating!"

He replied;
"Don't worry, it frustrates the pros as well. And the better you get, the more of those you'll leave."

So I look at it like that. I'm SUPPOSED TO leave single 10-pins. It means I'm hitting the pocket. Maybe not 100% ideally…or maybe I AM hitting it ideally and I just don't get the break. But at the end of day…a single 10-pin for a righty means you're bowling the way you're supposed to and you are very close to striking. You can't say that when you leave a 1-2-9…or a 3-6-10.

I was frustrated at Thursday leagues because I left the single-4-pin THREE times in 14 frames. I actually had to get my phone out and "google it" to see what the heck pin was supposed to be taking out the 4-pin but obviously wasn't. And my point in mentioning that is, EVEN THOUGH I'm FAR better at picking up a single 4-pin (69%)…it was MORE disturbing to leave that so often because I SHOULDN'T be leaving that pin.

I always loved picking up both the 10 and the 7, 'cause you can just roll cross-lane. The only problem I had with picking up the 10 was that the ball return got in the way of my approach.

[Amyers]

I always loved picking up both the 10 and the 7, 'cause you can just roll cross-lane. The only problem I had with picking up the 10 was that the ball return got in the way of my approach.

RV your going to lean when your throwing the hook that 7 pin is a little different and it gets in your head real quick

[vdubtx]

He replied;
"Don't worry, it frustrates the pros as well. And the better you get, the more of those you'll leave."

Very true, of my single pin leaves, the 10 pin is left about 1/3rd the time.

[Mike White]

Very true, of my single pin leaves, the 10 pin is left about 1/3rd the time.

I tend to play for a little higher in the pocket, so my most frequent single pin leaves are 4's and 9's.

Next most are 7's and 10's.

[MICHAEL]

I tend to play for a little higher in the pocket, so my most frequent single pin leaves are 4's and 9's.

Next most are 7's and 10's.

Yes, one thing that was passed on to me by Geno4, (who I bowl with on Tuesday nights this summer), MOVE BACK one foot! Theory is the ball will land in the alley a foot or so back giving it more distance to break toward the pocket earlier. Thus hitting the pocket at a little different angle and higher in the pocket.

Works for me,,, If I don't move, usually I will continue to throw 10 pin, (what looks like a nice pocket hit), all night LONG!

People in the past would say,,, THAT"S A GREAT LINE,,, DON"T Change anything,,, the oil will move, and it's going to start carrying!

NOT!!!

one day a Strike and Spare, I threw my record of 9 ten pin leaves, and didn't move BACK A FOOT! (slow moving oil I guess, LOL)

Moving up a foot, or back a foot works depending on the situation!

Below is Iceman's secret foot work to solving any problem you might come up against!!!