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    ok bowling guru's. i am struggling to control any of my equipment two of the house i shoot at. i am a med rev player with a high track, my current balls are just to aggressive for these houses they are wood lanes. so i dug up and old black widow pearl and i am wanting to put an experimental drill on it for length, i have heard pro's and con's to the Rico layout and i am interested in learning a bit more about it but i cannot find any drill sheets on google. any other suggestions?

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    Rico is one of those patterns that you either love or hate. it does differnt things for different people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin View Post
    Rico is one of those patterns that you either love or hate. it does differnt things for different people.
    The big trouble with the rico is a lot of people think they have a rico layout and they really don't.

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    after reading about it i do not think it is the layout i want, i was under the impression that this layout was designed for getting more length on the ball. that is what i'm looking for, for a 32ft house pattern on wood lanes i don't want to buy a Urethane or pancake core. i'm just looking for a long ball with nasty backend, hence my choice in the widow ball so what do you think? pin up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneshu87 View Post
    after reading about it i do not think it is the layout i want, i was under the impression that this layout was designed for getting more length on the ball. that is what i'm looking for, for a 32ft house pattern on wood lanes i don't want to buy a Urethane or pancake core. i'm just looking for a long ball with nasty backend, hence my choice in the widow ball so what do you think? pin up?
    I'm no expert but that seems like an awfully strong ball for that short of a pattern. If I was going to use it I think it would be pin down control drilling for that pattern.

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    If my understanding is correct and I'm sure bowl1820 will correct me if I'm wrong the purpose of the RICO layout is to remove the core from influencing the roll of the ball so it is more responsive to how much hand you put into it and they roll more easily and quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    I'm no expert but that seems like an awfully strong ball for that short of a pattern. If I was going to use it I think it would be pin down control drilling for that pattern.
    yeah... what can i say i'm a BIG fan of the Widow series, i have them all but "THE" Black Widow NIB and multiple others. for me i just know i can trust their reaction, i know what to expect when i let the ball go. and honestly my driller only charges $5 a hole to plug and redrill, so i though why not experiment on a pearl. i'm kind of thinking maybe a skid flip layout would get me the best length, but i have never thrown a skid flip and i hear they're tricky to throw it correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    If my understanding is correct and I'm sure bowl1820 will correct me if I'm wrong the purpose of the RICO layout is to remove the core from influencing the roll of the ball so it is more responsive to how much hand you put into it and they roll more easily and quickly.
    from the links provided below it sounds like it is designed for lower rev players, and it gives symmetrical balls an asymmetrical reaction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneshu87 View Post
    after reading about it i do not think it is the layout i want, i was under the impression that this layout was designed for getting more length on the ball. that is what i'm looking for, for a 32ft house pattern on wood lanes i don't want to buy a Urethane or pancake core. i'm just looking for a long ball with nasty backend, hence my choice in the widow ball so what do you think? pin up?
    32 ft pattern?

    What is this, a bowling alley for ANTS? /zoolander.

    That's a very short pattern, and if you [truly] have medium revs, then you're really looking for something closer to a urethane or a low-flare hybrid maybe.

    I would consult a pro shop (particularly if there's one at this miniature bowling alley you go to, because they're probably used to this!)

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