Shopping time - Long and angular ball wanted

[John Anderson]

If you happened to be shopping for a new ball (and I'm sure most of you are always window shopping), what would your recommend for something that goes long and has a moderate to/or very angular shape.

My current thought is the mastermind scholar. So, that will be my benchmark to compare to for the moment, but I'm definitely not dead set on it.

[Amyers]

First off the Mastermind Scholar is a great ball. My brother in law just got one and is shooting light out with it.

A few other to consider:

If I wanted something cheaper: Brunswick Foreta Exile or DV8 Ruckus Schinzo both of these can be had for $80 to $90 right now and both will give you that go long flip you're looking at I would say both are longer and more angular than the Scholar

If I wanted something towards the more aggressive side: The Motiv Primal Rage and Primal Rage Remix have more cover strength than the scholar and may handle a little more oil than the scholar

If I wanted something different than everyone else has: The Seismic Venator Pearl has the go long flip and you won't see many others on the rack

If I wanted to stay symmetrical but still get a flip: The Storm Skyrocket and the Rotogrip Hysteria will offer nice length and some flip and maybe easier to handle than the asymmetrical cores in the balls offered above

Lastly I'm a fan of Rotogrip balls so don't forget the Hyper Cell Skid and you may want to see what gets released tomorrow from Storm and Roto.

[John Anderson]

First off the Mastermind Scholar is a great ball. My brother in law just got one and is shooting light out with it.
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Lastly I'm a fan of Rotogrip balls so don't forget the Hyper Cell Skid and you may want to see what gets released tomorrow from Storm and Roto.

Thank you for all the suggestions. I'll have to go watch some videos and do my research on all those. I am definitely going to wait and see what Storm and Roto put out as well.

[RobLV1]

Using Brunswick balls exclusively myself, I would highly recommend the Melee Jab. It's a pearl like the Scholar, but it has a slightly higher rg and a symmetrical core. The Scholar is a great ball when you can use it, but overall I find myself throwing the Jab more than any other ball right now.

[John Anderson]

Using Brunswick balls exclusively myself, I would highly recommend the Melee Jab. It's a pearl like the Scholar, but it has a slightly higher rg and a symmetrical core. The Scholar is a great ball when you can use it, but overall I find myself throwing the Jab more than any other ball right now.

Just wondering, why do you stop using the scholar? Is it too strong? Does it not handle carried down oil well? Just too hard to predict? Something else?

Melee Jab looks really cool and appears to have a kind of similar reaction to my old ebonite bash.

[RobLV1]

Just wondering, why do you stop using the scholar? Is it too strong? Does it not handle carried down oil well? Just too hard to predict? Something else?

Melee Jab looks really cool and appears to have a kind of similar reaction to my old ebonite bash.

The Scholar has a low RG of 2.48 and is very aggressive. When it become too aggressive for the lane conditions, I start leaving weak tens. That's when it's done. BTW, unless some of the bowlers on your pair are using plastic balls for strikes, carry down no longer exists. When you see the ball hooking less, it's not because of carry down, it's because too much friction is robbing the ball of it's power. I often use the Jab for an entire three or four game set, just migrating left as needed. Last night in a league where only 25' of head oil is applied before league, I was able to shoot 227-191-236 with the Jab. I moved a total of 8 and 4 left during the entire night.

[John Anderson]

The Scholar has a low RG of 2.48 and is very aggressive. When it become too aggressive for the lane conditions, I start leaving weak tens. That's when it's done. BTW, unless some of the bowlers on your pair are using plastic balls for strikes, carry down no longer exists. When you see the ball hooking less, it's not because of carry down, it's because too much friction is robbing the ball of it's power. I often use the Jab for an entire three or four game set, just migrating left as needed. Last night in a league where only 25' of head oil is applied before league, I was able to shoot 227-191-236 with the Jab. I moved a total of 8 and 4 left during the entire night.

Thank you for the info. I shall do some asking around to see whether others think that the lane conditions will be too broken down or not. I suppose I didn't really understand that too much friction would be an issue.

[RobLV1]

Thank you for the info. I shall do some asking around to see whether others think that the lane conditions will be too broken down or not. I suppose I didn't really understand that too much friction would be an issue.

I guarantee you that if you are bowling with a majority of bowlers who are using reactive resin balls, that too much friction is an issue. If it's a little bit, it's weak ten pins. If it's an occasional pocket 8-10 it's a lot. Regardless... it's there. You just need to start being aware of it.

[Amyers]

John what are you using now?

[Bowlenheimer]

Scholar was on my list of 3 balls I was looking at with the hyper cell skid and crux pearl, I ended up.goijg with the crux but I have the option to,switch within the month and ai thin nk I may go with the skid. but those were the 3 ai was loooking at for backend.