What to do about the guy that stands there forever on the approach.

[Blacksox1]

I am also slightly annoyed by the bowlers that stand at the foul line until the ball hits the pins. I try to get off the lane as soon as possible, in order to speed up play.

That is your choice TonyInPortland. I like to see where my ball exits the pin deck to make adjustments. Good luck!

[Tony]

Nearly had a scuffle on wed night, apparently one guy was standing up on the approach and the other guy 'walked up on him", I am not sure of the details. When I walked back from the lane there were several guys standing in the middle of the aisle jawing about it, the bowler who was "wronged" , his father who was there and his other team members were yelling at the guy who was on the team we were bowling against.
I heard threats about beating someones Xss and taking it outside, it was pretty much due to one really big guy who is well respected in the league and who was bowling on the next pair against the guy who felt he was wronged stood in-between the guy / his dad and teammates and the guy they were pissed at and told them all to settle down and go back and sit down at their tables, who diffused the situation.

Really is this worth all of that ? How foolish

[TonyInPortland]

That is your choice TonyInPortland. I like to see where my ball exits the pin deck to make adjustments. Good luck!

You can backpedal and still watch your shot though.

[TonyInPortland]

How can you watch the ball exit the pin deck if you have turned your back to exit the approach?

I did not say turn your back. You can see it hit the pins from the approach, you don't need to stand at the foul line. You can if you want, I just said I find it annoying.

[Tony]

You can backpedal and still watch your shot though.

Yes, that's exactly what I do. I pause at the foul line for a second then backpedal a couple of steps seeing the ball pass all the way through the pin deck and then turn and and walk off the approach. It seems like that's the most common scenario I see, the guys that stay right at the line until the ball passes through the pin deck are the exception around my area.

I also see guys that turn immediately and don't look back, usually it's guys that know the shot is crap on a strike shot or know they got it , on a spare shot, this also only happens a small percentage of the time, in my observation.

I can definitely say since joining this site I have learned the value of, and become , much more observant of what's happening on the lane , both when I bowl and, when others bowl.

[fokai73]

Posting is not just to watch your ball going down lane to see where the ball ends up in the pin deck (too much drive, deflection, or back 20) and watch pin action (how 6 pin moves), but posting is a sign of good balance, leverage, etc... also a time to look at your slide foot from time to time. I don't need to further explain about the slide foot, it's obvious back peddling and heading back to the settee is far more important. The whole approach takes just 8 to 15 seconds. From the time the feet sets to end posting, it doesn't take that long. With a few exceptions of course. I never seen a pro become a pro by back peddling on every shot.

But then again, there's a difference between the mentality of a house hack vs a real bowler......

[Tony]

Posting is not just to watch your ball going down lane to see where the ball ends up in the pin deck (too much drive, deflection, or back 20) and watch pin action (how 6 pin moves), but posting is a sign of good balance, leverage, etc... also a time to look at your slide foot from time to time. I don't need to further explain about the slide foot, it's obvious back peddling and heading back to the settee is far more important. The whole approach takes just 8 to 15 seconds. From the time the feet sets to end posting, it doesn't take that long. With a few exceptions of course. I never seen a pro become a pro by back peddling on every shot.

But then again, there's a difference between the mentality of a house hack vs a real bowler......

If you want to make a point that others might consider valuable, you might post a link to a Gold level coach showing
his perspective on posting a shot, or you could be sarcastic and use name calling.

You be the judge on what a real bowler would do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5r8P5KV3wU

[billf]

In our scratch league we have Galen Cathcart, reknowned human rain delay. Wants, will wait for and expects at least two lane courtesy. Prefers four lane. Then when he finally does get on the approach there is the pre-shot set up that you can time with a calendar. This guy is no house hack. He bowled collegiately at Pikeville, bowls Regionals and every tournament he can find. Averages 230+ on THS. Great guy but annoying as hell to bowl with or against. I literally went out to smoke once when he got on the approach in the tenth frame. I smoke the whole cigarette and made it back in time to see his last shot.

How do I handle it? I just wait. I'm always behind the ball return while the guy in front of me is bowling but will just talk while there when the slow bowlers are up.

One time I did grab the microphone and announce to all twelve lanes that Galen was up so not to go near the approach. He laughed. He knows he is slow but can't fix it.

More than one lane courtesy needed shows a lack of focus on the target. When a human truly is focused the eye has tunnel vision with the brain ignoring peripheral. Post your shot. Too many positives to not do it correctly.

[Timmyb]

I will fall back on this fact: the pros get 25 seconds from either the competitor stepping off the lane, or his own ball coming back on the return. It just shouldn't take any longer than that. And as far as jumping back immediately after you through the ball, who the hell has the balance for that? I'm 260 pounds. I don't reverse gears that fast. 2-3 seconds isn't the big deal here. It's the statues and the 2-4 laners that slow us down.

A five man league used to take 2.5 hours to finish. Now we start at 6:30. and most times we're not out till 10. That's just wrong!

[fordman1]

Tim you are probably right about the times being an hour longer. Remember 2 things there is rarely a late league anymore. No need to rush as in the past. The other seems to be that there are more pots than ever before. At least in my leagues. They have
Mystery,
Progressive Mystery,
Lucky Strike,
Lucky Digit,
Ball Raffle,
Go to the counter and post King of the hill scores for H\C and actual,
Post scores for High Games Scratch and H\C,
Texas Hold-em, Up to 10 games,
Brackets 12 H\C,
Brackets 6 Scratch.
Could this be why league takes longer?