HELP! Can't stop sucking!

[scottymoney]

Such is life when the people have no reference seeing you bowl...... just sayin

It is tough to help anyone going by words. It really is a sport of being able to see what is happening. Even targeting is a personal preference and tough to tell people how to adjust.

[bobforsaken]

Such is life when the people have no reference seeing you bowl...... just sayin

It is tough to help anyone going by words. It really is a sport of being able to see what is happening. Even targeting is a personal preference and tough to tell people how to adjust.

I get that.. I was hoping there would be some tips on handling over under.. even generic tips like "add surface to a lower flare ball and play more direct".. (not saying that is a good tip or not.. which is why I asked the question to begin with)

I know I"m not going to get perfect advice just over the internet though a text description.. but it seems people are more concerned with criticizing anything they can rather than actually trying to answer the question. Only one person tried to answer the question and everyone else just jumped to some conclusion in order to criticize something.

[scottymoney]

I will say over/under is one of the most difficult things to adjust to. What works best for me is closing my angle to the pocket, keep the ball in the oil as long as you can. I find this many nights during league when I have to move in while everyone else sits on the 10 board. You said you play 15, out to about 8 or 9. Try moving in a bit to 17 or 18 and playing out to 11 or 12. this should still get you to some dry at the end of the pattern but keep you in the oil a bit longer.

I do agree that many people tend to rip apart every little comment. Usually while spelling something wrong and making it sound ridiculous along the way.

[fokai73]

1. I never said you're a spinner.

2. you don't need a video to tell someone, who is not using the gripping holes properly - which in contrast is not for gripping but to allow the hand to stay on to the ball with little or no pressure to help produce consistent release, that there are other ways to achieve more tilt.

3. the internet isn't perfect. you get what you get when you post on social media.

[fokai73]

Such is life when the people have no reference seeing you bowl...... just sayin

It is tough to help anyone going by words. It really is a sport of being able to see what is happening. Even targeting is a personal preference and tough to tell people how to adjust.

must be tough telling the OP about adjusting to carry down...

BTW, since you've also talked about spelling in your other post.. "it really" is actually "it's really a sport........"

just say....

[Amyers]

For those keeping score... I've asked about how to better adjust to my over/under issue in League and I've gotten:

1) Stay behind the ball to control the hook. (thanks.. I'll try that)
2) I must be mistaken about 500 Grit.. must be 500 grit with Polish
3) If I'm using 500 Grit, I must be a spinner
4) I must be a full Roller if I'm tracking over the fingers so I should look at New Equipment/Drillings
5) I should find a new Pro-shop if they sold me a Hy-Road
6) I'm trying to adjust my axis Tilt Wrong

Just waiting for the "Save your money on practice and find a certified coach" and then we can officially close this thread..

Sorry if you feel that my post was being critical and maybe I didn't explain it as well as I should. Your problem with "over/under" during league play may be just that but it sounds a lot like a problem I'm currently having myself which is being inconsistent with the release and I felt the finger issue could be leading to that. It could also be cupping your release inconsistently which is my issue at the moment.

My best advice for dealing with over under is to increase surface and play straighter to the pocket but if your seeing that with a ball at 500 grit surface I'm not sure that's really the problem which is why I supplied the above mentioned advice.

My comment about the Hyroad was simply that if you were looking for more midlane read expecting to get that from a ball with a much higher RG and less surface was not a choice the was likely to be effective which your pro shop should have informed you of if that's what you told them you wanted. The hyroad is a great ball just not something that is known for reading the midlane early.

You were the one who included the tidbits that are unusual. Using a 500 grit sanded early reading ball is not the norm so yes your going to see comments about that, you mentioned clipping the holes unless you use an unconventional grip and just release the ball just right. That shouldn't really be happening so you comments on that. As Scotty said it's difficult to diagnose a problem without seeing it in person and even if three people see it you'll probably get three different responses on the cause and the solution especially on something that people have a lot of different opinions on like over/under reactions.

[scottymoney]

must be tough telling the OP about adjusting to carry down...

BTW, since you've also talked about spelling in your other post.. "it really" is actually "it's really a sport........"

just say....

If that is your nit pick of my post then I feel better about myself. As far as carry down I am sure you pulled that from another post. I don't see carry down being his problem at all.

[fokai73]

If that is your nit pick of my post then I feel better about myself. As far as carry down I am sure you pulled that from another post. I don't see carry down being his problem at all.

that was my fault. it was O/U you gave him advice on and not CD.... but still...

you should feel better about yourself... with a handle with "money" in it, you must be a great bowler and/or make over $90K with an associate degree ... or like some with just a G.E.D and make $200k a year lol damn that would be nice

[scottymoney]

Yeah I wish I made that but "money" has been a nickname of mine for years. And it actually has been used in bowling for me as I am anchor for my team and need to strike out for the match on occasion. When I do it I hear "that was so Money!"

But I do have a Bachelor's degree..... my problem is my honesty usually gets me in trouble at work and I don't like to suck up to managment. Being in IT support my boss usually yells at me saying "I know you are right but you can't tell the user that!"

[fokai73]

I got friends in IT.... You got some patience dealing with those ppl.. That tough..

Anyway, Amyers said it right......just trying to help