Pinpal stats: What to strive for

[NewToBowling]

Here are my Pinpal stats for the season so far (33 games)

PinPal Stats:
First Ball Average: 8.87
Strikes: 45% (166/364)
Spares = 61% (116/188)
Single Pin = 75% (65/86) - To date only 1 missed non-10-pin (7 pin). Not saying much though.
Multiple Pins = 50% (51/102)
Opens = 20% (72)

Just had a question on what one should strive for. Of course 100% across the board would work but let's be realistic.

I'm currently at 191 avg in my league. What is considered a good first ball avg? Strikes? Spares? etc?

I know it's a loaded open ended question but I need something to shoot for. Is 9+ a good first ball avg? Strikes at 70%? etc...

[vdubtx]

Just for comparison from my stats:

Avg 224 through 144 games this season.

First Ball Average = 9.34
Strikes = 62%
Spares = 74% (416/561)
Single Pin = 90% (302/334)
Multiple Pins = 50% (114/227)
Splits = 6% (6/94)
Opens = 9% (145)

10 pins have been horrible for me this year, only at 83% vs. 90% last year, this one pin accounts for 26 of my single pin misses. converting 10 pin at my last year rate would put me at 93% single pin conversion. Certainly shows that I have had a lack of practice since before the holidays.

Here are some interesting stats regarding Pro's:

[jab5325]

Here are my Pinpal stats for the season so far (33 games)

PinPal Stats:
First Ball Average: 8.87
Strikes: 45% (166/364)
Spares = 61% (116/188)
Single Pin = 75% (65/86) - To date only 1 missed non-10-pin (7 pin). Not saying much though.
Multiple Pins = 50% (51/102)
Opens = 20% (72)

Just had a question on what one should strive for. Of course 100% across the board would work but let's be realistic.

I'm currently at 191 avg in my league. What is considered a good first ball avg? Strikes? Spares? etc?

I know it's a loaded open ended question but I need something to shoot for. Is 9+ a good first ball avg? Strikes at 70%? etc...

Good question--here are mine from my scratch league. The other league I use purely to try new things, and thus am nowhere near my scratch league.

Total Games: 81, 186.65 average (odd number due to power outage)

First Ball Average: 8.86
Strikes: 45% (403/886)
Spares = 57% (263/456)
Single Pin = 71% (147/205)
Multiple Pins = 46% (116/251)
Splits = 14% (11/77, including two converted 4-6s)
Opens = 22% (193)

Since my lesson, I am:

30 games total, 195.83 average

First Ball Average: 9.1
Strikes: 50% (163/326)
Spares = 56% (88/156)
Single Pin = 73% (54/73)
Multiple Pins = 40% (34/83)
Splits = 10% (4/37)
Opens = 21% (156)

[Aslan]

Each season I strive for certain goals. Some are Pinpal related, some not so. Here was this season's (Pinpal stats in bold):

Goals for 2015:

1) Always throw a clean game and/or a 550+ series.
2) Finish Fall/Winter in the top 20% of BOTH leagues in average.
3) Increase my strike % from 37% to 55% or higher.
4) Increase single-pin spare shooting % from 76% to 83% or higher.
5) Bowl a 266 (or higher) sanctioned game.

Now, each person has to look at their stats individually and decide whats holding them back.

For me, I was always striking 12-37%. That makes for a long night of shooting spares and a lot of low scores...even when my spare shooting was good. So I needed to work on carry....figuring out why I'm not carrying pocket hits....accuracy to find the pocket and find it sooner, etc... And I also needed to keep pressure on myself to increase that single-pin spare shooting.

Looking at you Pinpal stats...the only thing that looks "odd" is you have a rather low firstball average and a high strike %. That would indicate (to me) that you're a two-handed or thumbless bowler who strikes a lot but when you miss...you leave horrible multi-pin leaves. I may be wrong...but it's very odd to have a low first ball average and a 50%+ strike rate. Vdub strikes almost 2/3 of the time and has a first ball average of 9.3+.

That being said, for a 2-handed/thumbless/palm bowler...your single-pin spare shooting is much better than most...so it's a ?????.

The mudpuppy cliff note answer is actually quite clear. You strike enough, but your spare shooting needs work.

[fokai73]

I've been using PinPal for a long time and before that it was "warly" ?? On the palm pilot lol....

Anyway, I took time off 3 years ago and seriously recorded my league stats the last two season when I returned. In the past I didn't have a gaol to achieve and I pretty much wasted my time taking down data. So this time around, I'm comparing my stats from last season to this season. I'm constantly looking at my old stats before leagues to motivate myself to bowl well. But, I hit a slump in the middle of the season and dropped percentages - I stopped looking at old data around the time of my slump. Here are my stats from two seasons ago, before the slump (1st half), to current (over the slump).

Strike% from 9.08 to 9.20 currently 9.18
Spares% from 64% to 70% currently 68%
Single% from 81% to 89% currently 84%
Multi% from 47% to 60% currently 59%
Splits% from 6% to 17% currently 17%

The 3 6 9 10 multi combos were my weakness, I could pick these combination leaves. Then I adjusted my spare position at the approach and play directly hitting the right side of the key pin (3). Now, Any leaves from 3 6 10 to baby splits to double wood, it's $$$! Spare game is still work in progress.

The percentage doesn't seem so drastic, but I lost 11 sticks in my average after the first half and currently gained 3 sticks.

[jab5325]

I've been using PinPal for a long time and before that it was "warly" ?? On the palm pilot lol....

Anyway, I took time off 3 years ago and seriously recorded my league stats the last two season when I returned. In the past I didn't have a gaol to achieve and I pretty much wasted my time taking down data. So this time around, I'm comparing my stats from last season to this season. I'm constantly looking at my old stats before leagues to motivate myself to bowl well. But, I hit a slump in the middle of the season and dropped percentages - I stopped looking at old data around the time of my slump. Here are my stats from two seasons ago, before the slump (1st half), to current (over the slump).

Strike% from 9.08 to 9.20 currently 9.18
Spares% from 64% to 70% currently 68%
Single% from 81% to 89% currently 84%
Multi% from 47% to 60% currently 59%
Splits% from 6% to 17% currently 17%

The 3 6 9 10 multi combos were my weakness, I could pick these combination leaves. Then I adjusted my spare position at the approach and play directly hitting the right side of the key pin (3). Now, Any leaves from 3 6 10 to baby splits to double wood, it's $$$! Spare game is still work in progress.

The percentage doesn't seem so drastic, but I lost 11 sticks in my average after the first half and currently gained 3 sticks.

Amen, fokai--that's exactly the type of thing I'm trying to do. I have a nasty habit of chopping 4-7s, 2-4-7s and the like.

To the uninitiated, it looks like I haven't improved spare shooting since my lesson. But, I've gone from dumping it in the gutter or yanking it halfway across the lane to chopping. Granted, almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear warfare....but I'm getting closer. I try not to get angry at myself and remember that it's only my second season, and first full season, back in the sport and I've already increased my average 13 pins.

Great job, by the way.

[bowl1820]

Here are my Pinpal stats for the season so far (33 games)

PinPal Stats:
First Ball Average: 8.87
Strikes: 45% (166/364)
Spares = 61% (116/188)
Single Pin = 75% (65/86) - To date only 1 missed non-10-pin (7 pin). Not saying much though.
Multiple Pins = 50% (51/102)
Opens = 20% (72)

Just had a question on what one should strive for. Of course 100% across the board would work but let's be realistic.

I'm currently at 191 avg in my league. What is considered a good first ball avg? Strikes? Spares? etc?

I know it's a loaded open ended question but I need something to shoot for. Is 9+ a good first ball avg? Strikes at 70%? etc...

increase your first ball average to 9+, this will reduce the number of multi pin spares needed to be converted.

With the better carry needed to do that, it likely mean you'll be striking more so your strike % will naturally go up. Since your better at shooting single pin spares, that would also help your overall spare percentage, because of the reduced number of multi pin spares needed to be shot.

Then practice on converting the multiple pin spares that are left.

[fokai73]

What this app doesn't do like others I've used, are.....

1. Record if the strike is in the pocket or Brooklyn.
2. Multi pin spare includes splits. If splits were not included, those % would be higher.
3. Does not indicate starting point @ the approach.

Though, I can take notes which is a plus. I write down what pair I bowled and compare the history of that pair. For example: hi/low scores, amount of corners, drier, reflection, mid racks, etc...

Overall, this PinPal is a good app FWIW.

[fokai73]

Amen, fokai--that's exactly the type of thing I'm trying to do. I have a nasty habit of chopping 4-7s, 2-4-7s and the like.

To the uninitiated, it looks like I haven't improved spare shooting since my lesson. But, I've gone from dumping it in the gutter or yanking it halfway across the lane to chopping. Granted, almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear warfare....but I'm getting closer. I try not to get angry at myself and remember that it's only my second season, and first full season, back in the sport and I've already increased my average 13 pins.

Great job, by the way.

Thanks but it's still an uphill battle lol

[NewToBowling]

Thanks. Yes it would be nice to separate splits from the multi-pins section. I am currently 2/22 on splits. Take that away from multi-pins section and it looks a bit better.

And it's true, a 9+ on first ball average will naturally bring everything else up. That's one goal for now.

I do like the iPhone version better than Android because you can export the "pindicators" on iPhone version. I think that's a big help.