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    Quote Originally Posted by billf View Post
    I might be enticed to make the 10 hour drive if there would be a few people to meet and bowl with.
    I'm not great at planning things like this but if someone were able to plan something a few weeks in advance I could Definatly try n take off work for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I'm not anywhere near Philly but could be interesting if you are able to get a few people together, make sure to have someone there taking video and post it here for everyone to watch !
    I am in, I can arrange to pick up Sniper on the way from the East Coast and hit up Bill O'Neil when we get into the Philly area to hold this clinic.

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    Isn't it amazing how one sniper can make an interesting thread head south so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Isn't it amazing how one sniper can make an interesting thread head south so fast.
    It's because he bottom lined the original topic question. Just heave the ball 20 feet down the middle of the lane and shoot 230. Lane play issues solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Isn't it amazing how one sniper can make an interesting thread head south so fast.
    Right ! I am truly interested in any tips on when and how to change lines, for example I am usually around board 20 and shooting around 10 +or- 2 boards on both.
    what results would encourage you to move more outside say 15 to 5 or further inside about 25 to 15 / with that same +or- a couple of boards.
    I tend to fart around staying in the original position too long because it seems I'm not making decent shots and I usually don't always do as well from the other lines .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5280 Hooker View Post
    My question is.....how do you know where to play when I can strike from so many different places.
    By knowing yourself and how you bowl and where you may end up as the night goes on and the lanes change. So you'll want to start by using your "A" game and the line that best fits it, so you'll have the most optimal scoring probability at the start.

    Because while you may be able to strike from multiple lines, not all of those lines will necessarily be played with your "A" game. (Your "A" game is your most natural, comfortable shot.) and you don't want to start out by using your lesser game just because you can at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Right ! I am truly interested in any tips on when and how to change lines, for example I am usually around board 20 and shooting around 10 +or- 2 boards on both.
    what results would encourage you to move more outside say 15 to 5 or further inside about 25 to 15 / with that same +or- a couple of boards.
    I tend to fart around staying in the original position too long because it seems I'm not making decent shots and I usually don't always do as well from the other lines .
    MOST league bowlers are the most comfortable standing on 20 and hitting 10. I call them Blackjack bowlers for obvious reasons. On a typical house shot (THS), regardless of the length of the pattern, they have one thing in common: heavy oil between ten and ten, and lighter oil outside of ten. If you start out sliding twenty and looking ten like most everyone else, before long the oil on that line has been absorbed into the bowling balls, and the line will no longer work. The ball may start hooking too early, or the ball may start straightening out as it burns up in the friction. When this happens, you have two choices: either change to a less aggressive ball to give yourself a few more frames on that line, or move left to find more oil. As you started at the edge of the oil line where there was little oil to the right, moving right to a spot where there is friction to the right AND the left makes no sense at all.

    Please note that I referred to where you are sliding and where you are looking, rather than where you are standing and where you are targeting for a reason. First, it doesn't matter where you are standing if you don't walk straight during your approach. It's where you slide that counts. One of the most prevalent reasons that house bowlers have trouble moving left is that the inadvertently walk back to the right and continue to slide at the same spot for the entire set. It's also where you look that counts, realizing the the idea is to roll the ball consistently in relationship to your mark, rather than to hit your target. Personally, I always hit two boards to the right of where I'm looking.

    The only goal that you should set for yourself in terms of your "comfort zone" is to work as hard as you can to eliminate it and get to the point where you are equally as comfortable and, more importantly, have the same amount of confidence wherever you are playing on the lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Right ! I am truly interested in any tips on when and how to change lines, for example I am usually around board 20 and shooting around 10 +or- 2 boards on both.
    what results would encourage you to move more outside say 15 to 5 or further inside about 25 to 15 / with that same +or- a couple of boards.
    I tend to fart around staying in the original position too long because it seems I'm not making decent shots and I usually don't always do as well from the other lines .
    I always thought entry angle was not as important as long as you can get your ball to enter the pins between the 1-3 and exit the pins between the 8-9. Obviously angle is a factor in this, but it can change based on how much energy the ball has as it deflects through the pins. So angle will depend on oil pattern, ball used, revs, speed, etc.

    If you're leaving ten pins or carrying them with strikes that aren't flush, the ball is deflecting towards the 9-pin and you'll need to change one of the variables (angle, speed or ball) to get the ball through the rack between the 8-9.

    If you're leaving 4-pins or 9-pins, the ball has too much energy and is chasing the 5-pin through the 8-pin, so you'll need to change in the other direction.

    There's a whole lot more to this, but hopefully this helps the way you think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    MOST league bowlers are the most comfortable standing on 20 and hitting 10. I call them Blackjack bowlers for obvious reasons. On a typical house shot (THS), regardless of the length of the pattern, they have one thing in common: heavy oil between ten and ten, and lighter oil outside of ten. If you start out sliding twenty and looking ten like most everyone else, before long the oil on that line has been absorbed into the bowling balls, and the line will no longer work. The ball may start hooking too early, or the ball may start straightening out as it burns up in the friction. When this happens, you have two choices: either change to a less aggressive ball to give yourself a few more frames on that line, or move left to find more oil. As you started at the edge of the oil line where there was little oil to the right, moving right to a spot where there is friction to the right AND the left makes no sense at all.

    Please note that I referred to where you are sliding and where you are looking, rather than where you are standing and where you are targeting for a reason. First, it doesn't matter where you are standing if you don't walk straight during your approach. It's where you slide that counts. One of the most prevalent reasons that house bowlers have trouble moving left is that the inadvertently walk back to the right and continue to slide at the same spot for the entire set. It's also where you look that counts, realizing the the idea is to roll the ball consistently in relationship to your mark, rather than to hit your target. Personally, I always hit two boards to the right of where I'm looking.

    The only goal that you should set for yourself in terms of your "comfort zone" is to work as hard as you can to eliminate it and get to the point where you are equally as comfortable and, more importantly, have the same amount of confidence wherever you are playing on the lane.
    Haha so true. I feel I am the same way which is why I can't really adjust by moving left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    One of the most prevalent reasons that house bowlers have trouble moving left is that the inadvertently walk back to the right and continue to slide at the same spot for the entire set. It's also where you look that counts, realizing the the idea is to roll the ball consistently in relationship to your mark, rather than to hit your target. Personally, I always hit two boards to the right of where I'm looking.

    The only goal that you should set for yourself in terms of your "comfort zone" is to work as hard as you can to eliminate it and get to the point where you are equally as comfortable and, more importantly, have the same amount of confidence wherever you are playing on the lane.
    I have certainly been guilty of drifting back toward my right, and have been working on going straight toward the line, I'm finding as long as I think about and remind myself to walk straight that I can, but it has not yet become an automatic thing. I also find that missing a couple of boards left is a common occurrence when I am further left, I will have to work more on focusing my eyes 2 or 3 boards right of the target location and see if that works for me.
    I was pretty used to hitting the target fairly regularly on the 20/10 shot. It's also interesting that on some nights there are so many guys throwing a deeper line or lefties that the line stays pretty stable or inside line guys push oil out to the 10 line, that's one of the times I have moved right with some success.

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