Another 900 Series

[foreverincamo]

No, I'm saying the the approval process is so light weight that it's almost impossible for USBC to deny approval.

Because the approval process is so light weight, there are two 900 series that have been approved that USBC not only doesn't know if the equipment used was legal, USBC doesn't even know if the scores actually occurred.

I remember reading about those two 900's. When Glenn Allison threw his back in the 80's with a Columbia Yellow Dot, his ball and the lanes were worked over as if it was a crime scene. It's bulls@@t that it wa ever denied. Those two 900's are way worse than what happened to Glenn though as far as the sport goes.

[Mike White]

I remember reading about those two 900's. When Glenn Allison threw his back in the 80's with a Columbia Yellow Dot, his ball and the lanes were worked over as if it was a crime scene. It's bulls@@t that it wa ever denied. Those two 900's are way worse than what happened to Glenn though as far as the sport goes.

Having bowled the occasional tournament at La Habra 300 back in the early 80's, I can tell you the center was known as a rather high scoring house at the time.

The problem then just like now, you really don't know how much of a high score is because of the bowlers execution on that particular night, or how much was due to the help of the oil pattern.

This is why I'm an advocate of the limited distance dressing.

When you only have 24 feet of oil, you're pretty much on your own.

No help in terms of hold area guiding you to the pocket.

[Krash300]

24' of oil. Do you have 1 rev or something? I bowl alot of sport shot tournaments and the shortest pattern ive bowled is 34' and that will make you feel like a new bowler if you cannot execute properly. Can't imagine what a 24' pattern would look like

[fordman1]

Scores went up. It was better than a 50 ft lake in one place and no oil in another.

[1VegasBowler]

No, I'm saying the the approval process is so light weight that it's almost impossible for USBC to deny approval.

Because the approval process is so light weight, there are two 900 series that have been approved that USBC not only doesn't know if the equipment used was legal, USBC doesn't even know if the scores actually occurred.

First and foremost, my response here is not to start any crap with anybody. I'm just looking for opinions as to how this process can be made easier to certify 300's, 900's, etc.

I won't deny the fact, that, the approval process has some flaws to it, especially where it concerns the equipment that was used. But what can be done to make sure the equipment was legal?

Are we going to have somebody from the USBC at each center to certify the equipment that every bowler is using? OR do they just certify only those who throw 300's?

We all know there is no way that you're going to get a person from the USBC to be at a center for each and every league that is being played, and there's 2 reasons for that. 1) We don't get paid for anything and 2) We also bowl. So the only way to do this is by paying people to be there.

This means somebody is going to have to ante up, and who's going to pay the fees? The bowling center? They could, but they're going to hit the leagues to cover that, and since the fees we pay are getting higher all of the time you're going to see people dropping from leagues.

As far as verifying the scores, the league secretary should have the center print the scores for that individual and attach it with the proper form(s) that are being submitted to the USBC. (Not sure if it is mandated to do so)

I don't pretend to even have a solution to this, but I would certainly listen to anything that would be reasonable and pass it on.