It must be true as week before last we had several bowlers using some oldOriginally Posted by Hammer
original blue hammers and some other urethane balls and they killed our line
to the pocket with carry down.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I was using my urethane ball on league night Saturday and I had my slide foot on board 21 and was throwing between boards 5 and 10. As the oil was pushed down with each game I had to make lateral moves slightly left. I hear that push down oil is common for plastics and urethanes. If I tried to throw my reactive Raw Hammer Anger ball the same way I would be taking out the 10 pin. LOL! I am left handed by the way. Not all of us are rightys.
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It must be true as week before last we had several bowlers using some old
original blue hammers and some other urethane balls and they killed our line
to the pocket with carry down.
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Bill
Not to hijack but do the lanes on a THS like posted traditionally become drier as the night progresses or is the oil drawn down the lane and spread out?
Thanks
This is the carrydown vs depletion discussion.
For the most part lanes get drier as the night goes on, Because oil is being removed from the heads either by being absorbed or pushed down or both.
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It really depends on the bowlers and the type of balls they are using. If the majority of bowlers on the pair are throwing polyester and urethane, oil will be pushed past the end of the pattern. If most of the bowlers are using reactive resin oil will be stripped from the lane, and the amount transferred to the backend will be negligible. If some of these bowlers are high rev players the transitions will occur faster. If most of the bowlers are playing very similar lines, this will also speed the transition but also make it more predictable.
John
Thanks so much!
Awe the old days you would start with slide foot on 25 and target 12. By the end of the 1st game you move in 3-4 boards with feet. Then by the end of that game you move back to 28-29. Fresh-push down-dry up.
The carry down issue is one of the most controversial in bowling, largely because bowlers see the streaks of oil past the end of the pattern and equate their effect in terms of pre-modern bowling. To quote Joe Slowinski in his article entitled The Myth of Carrydown, which appeared in the October 2008 issue of Bowling This Month, " Unless you come to a bowling center after hours of open play or a birthday party, your change of ball motion is not a result of carry down." He goes on to say of a specific test that was run at Kegel, "...there was less than 2 units of oil past the end of the pattern... This is not enough oil to alter ball motion with today's covers."
For some reason, many, many long-time bowlers absolutely refuse to believe that when the ball starts to miss right, it is the result of too much loss of energy from early friction, not from carry down.
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