Awesome! Glad to hear he was eager to help, I could really use some professional advice myself this summer....before I get set into too many bad habits.
Finally! Huge improvement in my timing issue!
As some of you know, since back surgery, time off and nerve damage in my right foot I have really struggled with timing. To the point it has effected all aspects of my approach and release.
What happens is my 2nd step is complete way too early and 3rd step my leg actually passes the ball on the downswing. To compensate, my body learned to lean way over to the side and figure 8 around my leg.
I have tried several things on my own, as well as others trying to help me to no avail. While at the demo yesterday, an EBI staffer/coach came over and was talking to me. I told him about my issue and he watched me roll a few. He worked with me and I can't believe the results! He identified the root cause and changed my set up. It felt good after I tried the few adjustments, yet so weird at the same time. Now that I am able to trust it, wow! He took a video of me and I couldn't believe it was me. So much difference!
Here is an old shot of me at end step 2, start of 3. Then a shot of me now with finish position. Excuse the poor quality, you get the idea. Going to schedule some time to work with him this summer as he is only about 2hrs away. Well worth it I think.
Current arsenal:
Motiv Trident Motiv Jackal Ghost RG No Rules RG DareDevil
C300 Impulse Hammer Black Urethane
Awesome! Glad to hear he was eager to help, I could really use some professional advice myself this summer....before I get set into too many bad habits.
Working with a coach helped your bowling? What a novel concept!
A good coach will find root cause and not just treat symptoms.
I have never met you and some of your posts I don't know how to take.Originally Posted by RobLV1
That being said, I have worked with 2 different coaches and they have not been able to help me on this issue. Bigger steps, smaller steps, 5 step, slow my feet, etc has not helped much. This has. Maybe I just haven't had the right people.
Current arsenal:
Motiv Trident Motiv Jackal Ghost RG No Rules RG DareDevil
C300 Impulse Hammer Black Urethane
Rob was definitely being sarcastic in his reply. He has in the past explained how almost no one would take up golf and expect to become better by just playing 9 or 18 holes, once a week. Golfers buy nets so they can practice chipping in the backyard, hit buckets of balls at the driving range, and use the practice putting green while waiting for their tee time. They also take lessons from pros who are trained by the PGA to teach golf.
It seems like only bowlers think that just showing up for league night, using all their warm up shots trying to find a line to the pocket, bowling three games, and making an annual purchase of the "strongest" ball they can get, will make them a better bowler. I know that most of the bowlers reading this do take our sport more seriously than this, but even here it seems we are more often looking to youtube videos and asking questions on forums than actually paying for coaching.
John
Although coaching in general is more helpful than harmful, it can also be said that all coaching is not equal, and trying to get every person to duplicate the preferred stance, approach, release is not exactly good coaching. Just look at how bowling styles vary compared to baseball batting or pitching or golf swing and putting vary, trying to revise the players entire game to duplicate the perfect motion is not always the solution.
As with these other sports the key to good coaching is the coaches ability to discern what changes will be beneficial without trying to redesign the persons entire approach to the game, and some coaches just have better vision of this than others. The persons natural physical ability and limitations are also a major factor, you can't coach everyone to do the exact same thing. The 50 year old bowler who has some bad habits, can't bend their knee or put revs on the ball can't be coached the same way as the kids just learning the game.
When I see, hear coaches trying to tell the 50 yo bowler they need to get a deeper knee bend and other things they can't easily do, it isn't good coaching or even helpful......so saying all coaching is good and will solve your problems is just wishful thinking. The best coaching comes from a person tuned into helping the person learn and discover the best way to play the game given their limitations and to give the bowler the tools and ability to become a better bowler within the scope of their ability.
Congratulations to KYDAVE for finding a coach that works for him, it doesn't mean the other coaches were bad although that's possible also, it just means he found a coach that understands and can help him with his game.
BINGO, couldn't have said it better myself!
I'll say it: Golf is 10x a harder sport than bowling. You can accidentally get strikes and even 200 game (THS). You can't accidentally shoot under par in a round of golf.
Rather than sarcasm, I prefer to think of it as verbal irony! Yes, there are definitely differences between good coaches and bad coaches. This is why, despite negativity from many bowlers, I always recommend finding a USBC Certified Coach. Some are definitely better than others, but at least you know they were taught the proper methods, and at least paid enough attention to pass the exams.
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