Fresh THS, am I not sending it out far enough?

**Ball99999** · 11-07-2012, 08:44 AM

So I am in a period of transition right now but something I think I realized,
all night I was basically doing either one of these two lines, thinking I needed oil:

http://i.imgur.com/cEEXE.jpg

and I really didn't get much hook.

But, then I tried something, and this happened

http://i.imgur.com/jwx24.jpg

I got more hook and the ball started to actually make a move less far down the lane than before (closer to me). I don't know why this wasn't totally obvious to me before... I'd imagine this is what the whole -31 thing is about. It has to hit friction to start a roll.. And the oil before that is to keep its energy going so that it still has enough energy so it can roll AND hit the pocket with some authority but it needs to have a balance. What I was doing before was simply not trusting my ball.

Can anyone show me an example of where a long heavy pattern still allowed people to have a large hook when there wasn't friction to the outsides?

**J Anderson** · 11-07-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Ball99999

Can anyone show me an example of where a long heavy pattern still allowed people to have a large hook when there wasn't friction to the outsides?

No. Given the right technique and equipment a ball can hook sharply on a long heavy oil pattern, but there isn't enough distance from the end of the oil to the pin deck for the ball to cross a lot of boards.

**75lockwood** · 11-07-2012, 09:07 AM

Patterns like the shark are a lot trickier but when dealing with a THS with a large volume of oil, move right and throw straight up the side, and if you still hit shallow, adjust your target closer to second arrow

**Ball99999** · 11-07-2012, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by J Anderson

No. Given the right technique and equipment a ball can hook sharply on a long heavy oil pattern, but there isn't enough distance from the end of the oil to the pin deck for the ball to cross a lot of boards.

This makes me feel better.

I hear about the US Open being a very hard pattern but some still play the outside. Is that because they send it into a roll earlier with end over end axis rotation (or lack of)?

**Ball99999** · 11-07-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by 75lockwood

Patterns like the shark are a lot trickier but when dealing with a THS with a large volume of oil, move right and throw straight up the side, and if you still hit shallow, adjust your target closer to second arrow

So getting more specific, straight up the side as in the right side of the 2nd arrow?
Shallow being more or less oil?

**75lockwood** · 11-07-2012, 09:26 AM

Sorry,

by straight up the side i mean up first arrow, and by shallow i mean if when you throw straight up first arrow it doesn't make it into the pocket move your target left and try again.

the below video is an extreme example of playing way outside lol

**Ball99999** · 11-07-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by 75lockwood

Sorry,

by straight up the side i mean up first arrow, and by shallow i mean if when you throw straight up first arrow it doesn't make it into the pocket move your target left and try again.

the below video is an extreme example of playing way outside lol

Ok yah..
basically enough oil on first arrow for like the one guy playing up first arrow but doesn't stay that way forever right?

I used to play up first arrow I need to try it again.

**75lockwood** · 11-07-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Ball99999

Ok yah..
basically enough oil on first arrow for like the one guy playing up first arrow but doesn't stay that way forever right?

I used to play up first arrow I need to try it again.

Correct, as the oil breaks down you will need to move left and shoot the same target.

your feet should be the only thing moving, aim for the exact same spot.