This DRILLINGT Method can be DETRIMENTAL to your SCORES!

[UBowling]

Zothen that is exactly what a pro shop operator should be doing. They should take the time to go out on the lanes with the bowler to see how they bowl and measure the PAP (Positive Axis Point) and then inquire as to the lane conditions being used before they drill the ball. If they do anything else it will all be guess work.

[billf]

I score muuuuch better with a snap at the end

So what's that, like a 150? You said in July you averaged 140 and since haven't been able to get the ball to do what you want so maybe 100 is much better.
By the way, you have a spelling error. Should we call you names now like you do to others?

[Mike White]

So what's that, like a 150? You said in July you averaged 140 and since haven't been able to get the ball to do what you want so maybe 100 is much better.
By the way, you have a spelling error. Should we call you names now like you do to others?

I just wish Ball99999 would just quit this sight so the rest of us can go back to enjoying being here!!!

Bill, stop throwing stones.

sight is what working eyes give you.
site is a location.

[MICHAEL]

Ignore those that look for trouble, and try to make turbulence!! The River flows with volume, strength, and turbulence, go with the current, never try to swim upstream! Those that cause whirlpools will soon dissipate, and dissolve from the strength power and flow of the current! Keep your head up above water and just steer clear of whirlpools,,,, that attempt to suck you under,,,, (Words from Santa),, ho,,ho,,hoooooo!! Be the BIG FISH in the River, not the small one that bits the hook!!

[Zothen]

I agree with you UBowling,but, the fact is most posts on here seem to be,I bought a ball,had it drilled and it's not working the way I want it to. Very rarely have I seen a post where a pro shop went out and watched the person bowl before drillng a ball. I think it should be a requirement for all pro shops to watch someone bowl before drilling a ball,unless they are a regular customer.

Zothen

[Ball99999]

I think I disagree. What is watching a newer bowler going to really do? A newer bowler isn't going to have consistency. What if he drastically changes how he bowls, his speed, his revs, his release, his axis rotation etc? I know I did.

Unless a person is really good and consistent, everything dialed in, I think a driller should bowl a ball with as generic a layout as possible. That way if anything goes wrong, it's the bowler's fault.

[noeymc]

ill tell them to drill mine to go straight with a strong backend and i tell them the type of oil i ma use to the ball for and bam life is good lol i have no problems with mine


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my pro shop owner is a friend of mine who also owns the bowling lanes so i can bowl for free and he will make time to change the oil pattern on lanes for me he's a great guy he drilled my shatter after watching me throw and finding my axis point i think that is why my shatter just fits so nice you have to ask the pro shop to come look if you want there advice just to expect to see it happen they will be willing to help cuz they want to sell you that bowling ball so if they gotta spend 20-30 mins helping figure out little things i think most would do it

[billf]

I think I disagree. What is watching a newer bowler going to really do? A newer bowler isn't going to have consistency. What if he drastically changes how he bowls, his speed, his revs, his release, his axis rotation etc? I know I did.

Unless a person is really good and consistent, everything dialed in, I think a driller should bowl a ball with as generic a layout as possible. That way if anything goes wrong, it's the bowler's fault.

To a point I agree. I do thing they should at least get PAP and explain what the bowler can expect the ball to do as they change the things listed. If a bowler starts developing a style that a big drilling angle would be required yet the generic is too small, then that bowler would think he is doing something wrong when they are not. It's hard enough to fix the problems never mind trying to fix what isn't really broken.

[Hammer]

When you get a ball you have to know how talented you are at the time of purchase. If you have been bowling for a while and know that you can handle aggressive drilling layouts and are talented at coast to coast bowling and every other style of bowling then have at it with snap hook balls. If you don't have what you need for that kind of bowling then you get what will make the game easier for the style you have. So it boils down to talent, how often you bowl and if you enter tournaments with harder oil layouts. If I am not mistaken you can have a pro bowler like Earl Anthony that was kind of a straight down the boards bowler and didn't seem to use an aggressive ball to get the bowling record he racked up and is in the bowling hall of fame. It seems like it would be harder to adjust for oil break down on an alley with an aggressive ball then a ball that is made for more of a straight down the boards type bowling. So it comes down to a decision of what you are capable of handling.

[billf]

On some of the oil patterns like the US Open or the Brunswick, to score well you need to play near the middle. In that case a heavy oil, high hook potential ball is required to get the needed entry angle.