Low backswing??

[AZBowla's Girl]

Alright guys, an update....

I'm getting better and more consistent now. I've incorporated the following changes:
1. Lower the ball in my stance to about belt level.
2. Drop my left shoulder and lined my head up with the ball and my arm.
3. Instead of starting feet together I start with my right foot out ahead of my left by about a full step.
4. Both knees are bent before I take the first step.
5. Pushaway goes down instead of up.

Doing this has made my strike shot much more consistent. Unfortunately my scores don't reflect this much yet because I leave a lot of opens when I don't strike - I'm having to relearn how to shoot spares with this new stance. I could just shoot the spares my old way and strikes the new way but I think it would be better to use the same stance and swing for both spares and strikes so it's one less thing to have to think about and remember.

First game was 175 or so (I don't recall the score, just the little trophy that appeared on the overhead monitor that said 175 on it), second game was 203 but then it all fell apart and I shot a miserable 137. AZBowla's girl beat me by two pins in that game., which is great because yesterday was her first time bowling a full series with a fingertip ball. The lanes we were the old (and I mean OLD) wooden lanes at Santa Cruz lanes in Tucson - those from the area will know what I mean, these lanes look like they haven't been redone since the place opened way back in the 60's. So getting a 203 on those old wooden lanes was a big accomplishment and a good sign that I'm on the right track with these changes.

My backswing still isn't parallel with the floor, but I think if I can build on these changes I'll be happy with the result. It definitely "feels" better and the results seem to reflect that as well. Hopefully soon I'll be able to score 200+ consistently. That's my next goal.

I have to agree that his form is getting better and he is becoming more consistent now as well. As far as my bowling yesterday...my scores were really low. They were 112, 124, and 139. The last game I did bet AZBowla by 2 points. However, I just had my ball plugged and re-drilled into a fingertip ball. I absolutely love it. I am soooo glad that I did that. It feels a little strange, but my back does not hurt like it did when I bowled with a conventional ball. I am looking forward to getting my new ball soon and then get out there and whoop AZBowla on the lanes.

[AZBowla]

I am looking forward to getting my new ball soon and then get out there and whoop AZBowla on the lanes.

Uh oh, looks like I need to step up my game soon! Plus she will no doubt in addition to the new purple ball bring out the SECRET WEAPON - her amazingly intoxicating perfume! I'm doomed!

[Tampabaybob]

Uh oh, looks like I need to step up my game soon! Plus she will no doubt in addition to the new purple ball bring out the SECRET WEAPON - her amazingly intoxicating perfume! I'm doomed!

Just re-visited your video and picked up something that I didn't catch before. When you're releasing the ball, it appears that your thumb and fingers may be coming out almost at the same time and you're stopping with your follow through. You want your thumb to be almost half way ou "BEFORE" you start lifting the ball with your fingers. This will give you added revolutions (that you wanted) and if you can get a longer (upward) follow through that should give you some more speed. Watch the video again and stop it just as you release the ball and yo'll see what I'm talking about.

As for the perfume.......enjoy it.

Bob

[Tampabaybob]

I have to agree that his form is getting better and he is becoming more consistent now as well. As far as my bowling yesterday...my scores were really low. They were 112, 124, and 139. The last game I did bet AZBowla by 2 points. However, I just had my ball plugged and re-drilled into a fingertip ball. I absolutely love it. I am soooo glad that I did that. It feels a little strange, but my back does not hurt like it did when I bowled with a conventional ball. I am looking forward to getting my new ball soon and then get out there and whoop AZBowla on the lanes.

And now on to the "Boss"..........Now that you have a fingertip, let's see a video so you can kick some but when you two are bowling. The fingertip will help you get much more roll on the ball which in turn equates to more force hitting the pins.

Let's see what we can do to get this games that are below 140 up to 170's. Shoot a video next time you two go out of both of you so we can see what you're doing or not doing and get your scores up. By the way, how heavy is your ball ? That also will make a difference.

And keep the perfume thing going, you've got him mesmerized !! LOL

Bob

[AZBowla's Girl]

Uh oh, looks like I need to step up my game soon! Plus she will no doubt in addition to the new purple ball bring out the SECRET WEAPON - her amazingly intoxicating perfume! I'm doomed!

It looks like we are going to have to go out and practice more so that I can get better and beat you. And I will make certain to wear my perfume so that I have an edge since you already know how to throw a fingertip ball. LOL

[AZBowla's Girl]

And now on to the "Boss"..........Now that you have a fingertip, let's see a video so you can kick some but when you two are bowling. The fingertip will help you get much more roll on the ball which in turn equates to more force hitting the pins.

Let's see what we can do to get this games that are below 140 up to 170's. Shoot a video next time you two go out of both of you so we can see what you're doing or not doing and get your scores up. By the way, how heavy is your ball ? That also will make a difference.

And keep the perfume thing going, you've got him mesmerized !! LOL

Bob

My ball is a 14 lb. ball. I am looking into getting possibly the Karma Pearl or the DV8 Misfit next and that ball would either be a 14 or 15 lb. ball. I haven't decided which weight as of yet.

I will make certain to have AZBowla film me the next time we go bowling. I do know that each game I was getting better, so that made me feel good. Plus, I would have gone on more, but we had to go after the three games. The great thing about that is, my back was not hurting like how it used to before. I had problems getting through two games at the time until now.

[billf]

Stay at 14 lbs. There's no reason to chance the added weight hurting your back. If it did, that would be too expensive of a paperweight.

[Tampabaybob]

Agreed with Bill. My new ball is a heavy 14 #er and I love it. With these newer balls it's not necessary to throw the heavier balls anymore. Especially if you have back problems.

Look forward to seeing your video.

Bob

[AZBowla's Girl]

Thank you for the advice. I have to agree with you all about keeping it a 14 lb. ball. I really don't want to hurt my back more that it has already been hurt. Thank you...we will be going again really soon, so I will have AZBowla film me the next time we go.

[Mike White]

Lowering the ball in the stance usually results in a higher back swing. Being a Slowinski and Baker disciple, I teach to drop the shoulder. The spine tilt usually allows a natural shoulder drop that is easily reproduced.
Mike, you're very good at this. Have you considered coaching? There are many young bowlers who could benefit from your educated insights. Old ones too but they are usually more stubborn lol

Ok Bill, you talked my into it.

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