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    Remember that about 70% of ball motion is due to the type and preparation of the coverstock. Redrilling a ball doesn't affect the motion as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billf View Post
    Mike, the two balls are for different amounts of oil. So, when the Pearl is too much as the lanes dry up some, swap to the Frantic. Being similar layouts and reactions you would be able to use roughly the same line.
    I will give it another try tomorrow.... I tried it tonight after a 233 first game in league,,,! I might be crazy, but I swear it reacts just as much as the IQ! I really don't want to make a judgment or change anything yet, I haven't had much time to really give them a good testing. I know that IQ pearl is one hell of a ball! Has to be, if it gave me that elusive 300!!! I will experiment tomorrow during our 2 hours of free practice bowling! I need to get a feel for them! Just got them last week,,,, 4 days after I purchased them 300 with the IQ!! LOL

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    It depends on how much you want to calm it down. I would start at 2000 abralon/sair nd go upor down from there. Most times just knocking the shine off with a worn 2k or a 4k pad is enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormed1 View Post
    It depends on how much you want to calm it down. I would start at 2000 abralon/sair nd go upor down from there. Most times just knocking the shine off with a worn 2k or a 4k pad is enough
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    THANKS storm1,,, I have a spinner, and 180 through 4000 pads. I will use one of my 4000's and see if I can't get a little different reaction. A more controlled arc... rather then the nice snap that the IQ pearl has! ( I like that nice snap but when oil gets used up, I find myself moving left, then the angle changes going into the pocket, and the ball starts leaving 7's, 10's ect.

























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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    lets say its league night fresh oil, (house pattern), what would be the best way to take some snap out of the break point a few feet from the pocket?
    1. 4000 pad, would that make it less bite at the end, but store more energy????

    2. 1000 pad, use up more energy, thus less snap at the end

    I have a frantic, and it has a snap at the end much like the IQ pearl, was wondering what might make it a more gradual path into the pocket. It is drilled somewhat different then the IQ, both are pin above the ring finger but wow does it snap a snap right at the end of its travel down and into the pocket. I want it to be a more gradual entry into the pocket, don't need two angles that are almost the same. Both are new balls I purchased recently.
    Something very basic I picked up Michael was to simply put less axis on the ball and throw a bit harder - this will straighten that hook out enough for ya. The hand more under the ball will give you more revs so this will add a little more pace regardless. Don't worry, the ball will still hook, just a little less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiedave View Post
    Something very basic I picked up Michael was to simply put less axis on the ball and throw a bit harder - this will straighten that hook out enough for ya. The hand more under the ball will give you more revs so this will add a little more pace regardless. Don't worry, the ball will still hook, just a little less.
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    Thanks for the tips!! What does it mean to put less axis on the ball,,,, I didn't know I was putting any on!! LOL.......I understand about putting more hand on the ball to get more revs, but (will add a little more pace) what does that mean?? This sounds like some good advise, and I have a lot to learn, I want another couple 300's,,, and a 800! Knowledge is power,,,, thanks ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    What does it mean to put less axis on the ball,,,,
    OK here you go MICHAEL a little info on axis rotation as less axis= less hook
    it's all in your hand release on changing the axis rotation. Watch PDW and you
    will see why he is so successful on the PBA tour as he can change the axis of
    his ball release at any given time.

    Axis Rotation Comparison Video
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    Wow that takes (TOUCH) since people are not machines like in the video, the ability to be consitant in your AXIS or rotation must take some kind of GIFT! I know I have been experimenting with different releases, and I can get much more (AXIS of ROTATION), when I get MORE HAND in the ball! GREAT THING TO practice. I think many, maybe most bowlers use the same release every time.

    I know when I shoot the 10 pin I use ( O axis of rotation), and I picked up last Sunday 17 of 18 attemps. I bowl with a lady that is a pretty good bowler, (not manic, she is the best!!) and this lady has a great strike ball, and never misses the 7 pin, (right handed), but always misses the 10!!! ALWAYS!

    I tried to tell her about releasing the ball with the palm UP, causing the ball revolutions to go straight, but it just didn't sink in.... she is on my seniors league, and 92 years old! You can't teach an old dog NEW TRICKS must have come from the bowling community!!

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    Yes MICHAEL it takes quite a bit of practice to be able to change the
    axis rotation on the ball at will.

    That is one of my practice routines I practice being able to change my
    hand position on the fly at any given moment to gain more axis or less
    axis rotation on the ball.

    Years ago I pretty much had it mastered almost to the point of being like
    PDW but after the 12+ year layoff from bowling it is quite a bit harder to
    do now days but it is coming back to me although not as good at it as I
    once was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by got_a_300 View Post
    OK here you go MICHAEL a little info on axis rotation as less axis= less hook
    it's all in your hand release on changing the axis rotation. Watch PDW and you
    will see why he is so successful on the PBA tour as he can change the axis of
    his ball release at any given time.

    Axis Rotation Comparison Video
    I remember reading an article awhile back about the range of axis rotation that pro bowlers are capable of. If I remember correctly of the half dozen or so pros that they measured, PDW was actually the least versatile with a range of about 50º to 90º. Walter Ray Williams had the largest range of axis rotation, going from 5º to 90º.
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