THE " Bill Hall Tri-Grip?

[Aslan]

Tried the Tri-grip again last night. Had success early on in practice, bowling a 175. But then a 98...so I refrained from using that ball for league play.

I practiced with it some more after leagues; 118-129-141-148-91

I still don't like how it falls off the hand. I seem less accurate with it, and it really hurts my spare shooting. I thought I had it figured out; I thought I could delay my release just a little...and stay low...and that sort of helped...but not enough.

And even though adding tape to the thumbhole has dimished the rubbing on the inside of my thumb, I'm now getting pain/rubbing on the inside of the middle finger. It almost feels like either my middle finger has gotten bigger or the hole for the middle finger has gotten smaller.

I also couldn't get many revs. It doesn't matter so much on a plastic ball, but it just seems like the ball is so quick to release from the hand, that I can't get my wrist turned fast enough.

It does feel lighter and I think while the finger and thumb are taking some abuse, the elbow, wrist, and even shoulder seem to be taking less abuse. Sometimes I forget it's a 15lb ball. I pick it up and it feels like a 13lb ball.

I haven't given up on it, but I'm more like 60% sure I'm gonna have my next ball drilled tri-grip versus my previous 70%+.

[MICHAEL]

My Beatdown was drilled correctly, with the Tri-Grip!, but the frantic, was off on the span almost 3/8 of an inch! I thought it felt weird, so I double checked it with James, (one of the drillers), and he is taking it back to fix! This ball is going to look like Swiss cheese I fear,,, being plugged again and redrilled. I would imagine they will plug the thumb hole only, and get the correct span!

I know everyone I have talked to, or read about on BP's pro shop facebook web site, like the feel, and as I said a lady actually bowled a 300 with the Tri grip, not long ago. Is it a system that makes a great bowler out of you .... LOL... I doubt it, but is it a comfortable system of drilling that feels much more natural in your hand, many say yes! I have yet to find anyone that is unhappy with the feel!

You still have to hit your marks, and line up properly, along with all the other bowling info you are learning, as am I!!

[Mike White]

My Beatdown was drilled correctly, with the Tri-Grip!, but the frantic, was off on the span almost 3/8 of an inch! I thought it felt weird, so I double checked it with James, (one of the drillers), and he is taking it back to fix! This ball is going to look like Swiss cheese I fear,,, being plugged again and redrilled. I would imagine they will plug the thumb hole only, and get the correct span!

I know everyone I have talked to, or read about on BP's pro shop facebook web site, like the feel, and as I said a lady actually bowled a 300 with the Tri grip, not long ago. Is it a system that makes a great bowler out of you .... LOL... I doubt it, but is it a comfortable system of drilling that feels much more natural in your hand, many say yes! I have yet to find anyone that is unhappy with the feel!

You still have to hit your marks, and line up properly, along with all the other bowling info you are learning, as am I!!

Wow, 3/8" is a huge miss. I feel I screwed up if I miss by 0.01"

[Mike White]

Tried the Tri-grip again last night. Had success early on in practice, bowling a 175. But then a 98...so I refrained from using that ball for league play.

I practiced with it some more after leagues; 118-129-141-148-91

I still don't like how it falls off the hand. I seem less accurate with it, and it really hurts my spare shooting. I thought I had it figured out; I thought I could delay my release just a little...and stay low...and that sort of helped...but not enough.

And even though adding tape to the thumbhole has dimished the rubbing on the inside of my thumb, I'm now getting pain/rubbing on the inside of the middle finger. It almost feels like either my middle finger has gotten bigger or the hole for the middle finger has gotten smaller.

I also couldn't get many revs. It doesn't matter so much on a plastic ball, but it just seems like the ball is so quick to release from the hand, that I can't get my wrist turned fast enough.

It does feel lighter and I think while the finger and thumb are taking some abuse, the elbow, wrist, and even shoulder seem to be taking less abuse. Sometimes I forget it's a 15lb ball. I pick it up and it feels like a 13lb ball.

I haven't given up on it, but I'm more like 60% sure I'm gonna have my next ball drilled tri-grip versus my previous 70%+.

When you have a chance, bring it back and we can re-work the thumb pitch, based on the wear pattern on your thumb.

It would take about an hour to plug up the thumb.

[Aslan]

When you have a chance, bring it back and we can re-work the thumb pitch, based on the wear pattern on your thumb.

It would take about an hour to plug up the thumb.

Tried the ball again this evening. Started throwing it a bit better: 126-126-153-164-131

No pain in the middle finger. A little bit of thumb rub; inside of knuckle…but not too bad.

Still not sold on it enough to use it as my primary ball on Thursdays, but at least it's not totally useless.

Gonna keep working on it. I don't see the point of plugging and re-drilling. What I really need to see is how a more asymmetric, more powerful ball would behave with the tri-grip. It's hard to tell what kind of revs I'm getting with the tri-grip because the plastic ball is going to go straight regardless.

I think I'll give it another 5-7 weeks. With the tape in the thumbhole, I've helped with the thumb rubbing. One way or another, tri-grip or standard fingertip drilling…I'll be bringing a ball to Mr. White in 5-7 weeks. Still think I'm gonna go with the tri-grip. But still some time to figure that out. No bigee if I make a mistake. Plug it and drill it a different way….right? I mean, I have 5 new balls in my closet undrilled…so I can afford to make a mistake or two on the next one.

[MICHAEL]

Tried the ball again this evening. Started throwing it a bit better: 126-126-153-164-131

No pain in the middle finger. A little bit of thumb rub; inside of knuckle…but not too bad.

Still not sold on it enough to use it as my primary ball on Thursdays, but at least it's not totally useless.

Gonna keep working on it. I don't see the point of plugging and re-drilling. What I really need to see is how a more asymmetric, more powerful ball would behave with the tri-grip. It's hard to tell what kind of revs I'm getting with the tri-grip because the plastic ball is going to go straight regardless.

I think I'll give it another 5-7 weeks. With the tape in the thumbhole, I've helped with the thumb rubbing. One way or another, tri-grip or standard fingertip drilling…I'll be bringing a ball to Mr. White in 5-7 weeks. Still think I'm gonna go with the tri-grip. But still some time to figure that out. No bigee if I make a mistake. Plug it and drill it a different way….right? I mean, I have 5 new balls in my closet undrilled…so I can afford to make a mistake or two on the next one.

It may not be for everyone, but an overwhelming number of people I have talked to around here swear by it. In fact, I have yet to hear anyone say they didn't like it but one person! He is a good bowler, and just prefers a more main stream drilling pattern!

It many not be for you Aslan, and that's something to think about! It due to the different pitch's and various angles it causes you discomfort then I would seriously consider going with a lay out that is (pain free)!

The one thing that it is suppose to accomplish is a more comfortable feel and delivery!

It does not say that it will give increase you score! Many have, due to better release, and comfort! I know yesterday I notice that I felt more lift off of my fingers at release, and thus more rev's, using the Tri grip! Do I like, and still use the conventional fingertip drillings,,,,,,YES! I thing they both have their place.

I am having my Frantic, plugged and redrilled with the Tri grip! The first drilling was off, and a mistake was made in the span! Almost 3/8 to wide, with one of my finger holes and 1/4 off with the other, so it will be interesting to see the difference when I get it back.

Remember I had my 300 game last week, and 789 using a standard fingertip drilling on a older ball that had been plugged. The V.G. Nanno pearl!

I am not sure that everyone will get higher scores, but some have, including a lady here in Kansas city a while back! If its not comfortable, then I would say its not for you! If it feels great off the hands, then it just might be!

At this point I would say its a good system, better then the other styles, it depends on the bowler!

I at this point don't intend on plugging all my balls and converting them, but then I am still working with the new feel! Good luck!

[Aslan]

I am not sure that everyone will get higher scores, but some have, including a lady here in Kansas city a while back! If its not comfortable, then I would say its not for you! If it feels great off the hands, then it just might be!

The thumb issue aside...which as Mike elluded to is an easy fix...I agree. It is a more natural and comfortable grip. Of matter of fact...it's that comfort that is also what I'm most unsure about. It's SO comfortable...that the ball just kinda falls off your hand. And I have to remind myself..."You need to get your wrist turned over...even if its a plastic ball...because thats the proper way to throw it. The tri-grip is sometimes so comfortable and natural a feel...that it falls off you hand before you have a chance to get that wrist turned up (into handshake position). And because it feels so different, sometimes I'm not sure if I got my wrist turned enough or not. On a bigger hook sort of ball...easier to tell because if you stay behind it...it goes straight...if you get the proper wrist rotation, it hooks.

But I'm still leaning towards it on my next ball. Plan on messing with it for another 7 weeks, then making a decision.

[MICHAEL]

Wow, 3/8" is a huge miss. I feel I screwed up if I miss by 0.01"

It had to be a huge mind fart!!! Yes I had my hand with is rather large in span, stretched to the max! I thought it might be part of the Tri Grip layout?
WRONG! It will be ready today, so I am told!
Then I will be able to let you all know my feelings on the Frantic Tri-Grip! I had one good series with the Beatdown 700, using the Tri Grip! Its a 16lb ball, and the Frantic is 15!

I think one thing needs to be made clear, some do find higher games/series ...some about the same! One thing that all have said to Iceman is, its a very comfortable grip.

[MICHAEL]

you haven't researched a new way to lay out your bowling ball with the Bill Hall Tri Grip way of specing out your new,old or used bowling ball you are really missing out in a huge opportunity to get a good grip that fits you personally and promotes smooth easy release. More revolutions on the ball are noted, more consistently and for most a clean release from the thumb of the ball at release is awesome. You can't lose by switching all your balls to the tri grip system. Totally remarkable.

BP'S Pro Shops likes this..bpsproshopsllc@aol.com,,, 816 313 6151 any questions,,, give Bruce/James a call!

[MICHAEL]

It feels GREAT,,, MUCH BETTER with the measurements being correct. It will be interesting to see how it comes off the hand tomorrow! I will fill you all in on my thoughts on this system with a 15lb Frantic ball... I will post a picture of its new layout..... can't wait to take it on a test run!!! If it roles as good as it feels on my hand, ,,,, watch out 800!! Iceman is going to GET YOU!!