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    A polish is nothing more than an uber-fine abrasive in a liquid suspension. Whether it be for cars, boats, or bowling balls. The ONLY thing a polish does, is provide shine...a slick mirror-like surface. The more you polish, the higher the gloss.

    For protection (like for a car or boats finish) you should ALWAYS apply a wax or other protectant AFTER you polish. The wax is what will keep the water beading, and the shine for a long time. Sure, polishing will bead water. But not for long. Usually after a couple of hot days in the sun, the pores open back up again...unless there's a wax on it.

    A polish can't be applied like a wax. It can't be built up...unless it's a 2-for-1, cleaner/wax or polish/wax, etc.

    A good ball polish will not leave a residue on the ball, it will only change the surface. BUT, as an added measure, it is recommended that you throughly clean the ball after altering the surface by any means, including using a polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptnomore View Post
    A polish is nothing more than an uber-fine abrasive in a liquid suspension. Whether it be for cars, boats, or bowling balls. The ONLY thing a polish does, is provide shine...a slick mirror-like surface. The more you polish, the higher the gloss.

    For protection (like for a car or boats finish) you should ALWAYS apply a wax or other protectant AFTER you polish. The wax is what will keep the water beading, and the shine for a long time. Sure, polishing will bead water. But not for long. Usually after a couple of hot days in the sun, the pores open back up again...unless there's a wax on it.

    A polish can't be applied like a wax. It can't be built up...unless it's a 2-for-1, cleaner/wax or polish/wax, etc.

    A good ball polish will not leave a residue on the ball, it will only change the surface. BUT, as an added measure, it is recommended that you throughly clean the ball after altering the surface by any means, including using a polish.

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    thanks for the great info!! Are you familiar with the ( Ming Finish for cars)? I had it done on a black car years ago.
    It's not a wax at all, but a conditioning of the paint surface that would shine like new for 3 years.... water would bead up just like a waxed car. No wax after the surface treatment, but it did bead the water for over 3 years, and looked great! I have heard bad, and good about the surface treatment, but I was happy with my outcome.
    http://mingautofinish.com/ming.php

    I know a bowling ball would not work with the Ming Finish, other then maybe a plastic, but my point is that it does without WAX protect, and shine a car for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    thanks for the great info!! Are you familiar with the ( Ming Finish for cars)? I had it done on a black car years ago.
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    http://mingautofinish.com/ming.php

    I know a bowling ball would not work with the Ming Finish, other then maybe a plastic, but my point is that it does without WAX protect, and shine a car for years.
    I'd like to see what that paint looks like after the 3 years has gone by. 6 years?

    It sounds like a clay bar and buffing treatment. The clay bar might help pull the dirt and crud out of the bowling balls, but the Ming Buffing/polishing would turn my 500 grit oil monster into a slicker than snot spare shooter.

    I'd be very reluctant to use that Ming thing on any of my cars or motorcycles. With no protectant, it may shine, but the sun and acid rain has got to kill it much faster. Dunno...sounds like one of those "too good to be true" things.
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    Default The surface of a bowling ball with ming, would be like glass!! (:)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ptnomore View Post
    I'd like to see what that paint looks like after the 3 years has gone by. 6 years?

    It sounds like a clay bar and buffing treatment. The clay bar might help pull the dirt and crud out of the bowling balls, but the Ming Buffing/polishing would turn my 500 grit oil monster into a slicker than snot spare shooter.

    I'd be very reluctant to use that Ming thing on any of my cars or motorcycles. With no protectant, it may shine, but the sun and acid rain has got to kill it much faster. Dunno...sounds like one of those "too good to be true" things.
    Its been around for a Long TIME!! Over 20 years,,, and still doing business,,, it explains the process if interested! Only reason I mentioned it was that it does bead up water, keeps its shine.... NO WAX involved
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    Mike, How has your bowling ball oven been working? Getting any use out of it? Just curious as I will likely make one soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdubtx View Post
    Mike, How has your bowling ball oven been working? Getting any use out of it? Just curious as I will likely make one soon.
    Works Great, all for under $90.00! Great combination, the spinner, and oven! The guy that came up with this idea saved me a lot of $$$$$$$$ I ordered the stuff from Amazon, including the extra rings, I already had a tempature gage, but the dial has a pretty accurate dial!
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