If knowledge is power, why........

[Blacksox1]

Here:

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/7/5877035/...arent-the-most

What about "Perfect" practice for the talented and gifted?

[MICHAEL]

here:

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/7/5877035/...arent-the-most

Need i say more!!!

[rv driver]

What about "Perfect" practice for the talented and gifted?

Yeah, it doesn't address that variable. I noticed that right off the bat. A lot of practice time and effort is wasted practicing mistakes. Music is also a highly-repetitive, muscle memory-rich endeavor -- like bowling. Of course people who are gifted don't rely on practice to do well -- they don't need to. People who do need to end up falling behind because they end up reinforcing bad things.

[MICHAEL]

Yeah, it doesn't address that variable. I noticed that right off the bat. A lot of practice time and effort is wasted practicing mistakes. Music is also a highly-repetitive, muscle memory-rich endeavor -- like bowling. Of course people who are gifted don't rely on practice to do well -- they don't need to. People who do need to end up falling behind because they end up reinforcing bad things.

I don't KNOW rv driver..... music doesn't chance while your playing it, like bowling! The Gift part of Bowling is, balance, Focus, the kinesiology of bone, muscle, nerve, reflex. degree of coordination, ,,,, so many things go into the gift, that are either THERE, or NOT? MOST people that I have talked to, have stayed around the same average for YEARS! Up a little, Down a little. Some tried coaching, which helped, but not a lot. Some said they practiced many games a week, just to give it a try,,, but only marginal improvement.

AGAIN, if HOUSE OIL is sooooooooo easy, (key word I keep hearing EASY) Then why don't several knowledgeable people on this website have that simple goal! I don't want to hear they don't practice enough.... LOL...how much would that be 100 games a week?

I swear to what ever god you believe in, its A GIFT,,,,, A HUGE GIFT,,,,, and many I know that do bowl that 220 or higher level, it Just Comes Easy!

THANKS RV DIRVER,,,, for that back up!! I knew Science Would Back me.....

[Hampe]

Check out another friend of mine, Pat Henderson, Kansas City MO. Go to USBC and look him up. I have subbed for him on a league a few times last winter. This guy knows bowling, never played in college, had a little coaching in his high school years, but has that 220 and higher level on all his leagues. HE HAS THE GIFT!

HE doesn't practice, other then the 3 or 4 leagues he plays on. HE is 60 years old, and even has health issues. Godzilla amounts of 300s and 800s!
did another 800 a couple weeks ago on a seniors league we bowl on together.

Lol. He started bowling in high school, and is now 60 years old.....So he's been bowling for over 40 years. How long has he been playing 3-4 leagues every week.....I'm guessing for quite some time (maybe even more when he was younger?). So he's been playing on average 3-4 times a week for over 40 years, but "never practices". Well....that must be some gift!

[Aslan]

Next time my daughter claims she can't memorize multiplication tables…I'll agree with her that only the autistic truly have the gift of mathematics…if she needs to practice and learn math…then she's only reinforcing futility.

Granted, the autistic can do complex multiplications in a matter of seconds but are unable to make toast, hold a conversation, or cross a street, or dress themselves,…but…ya can't have EVERY gift!!

This conversation reminds me of the people claiming school is stupid because Einstein was a dropout as was Thomas Edison and many of the people that built the first super computers. I mean, sure…there have been a handful of persons in history that have done great things without a formalized education…but there also have been billions of people that have lived lives of poverty and misery because they were illiterate and uneducated.

But i can see…that I must actually PROVE Iceman wrong…so I will make it my mission…a man without a GIFT…to practice and learn my way to the top of professional and amateur bowling!! Hopefully his impressive physique and health status will keep him alive long enough for me to prove him wrong…because this may take some "time".

[Aslan]

Lol. He started bowling in high school, and is now 60 years old.....So he's been bowling for over 40 years. How long has he been playing 3-4 leagues every week.....I'm guessing for quite some time (maybe even more when he was younger?). So he's been playing on average 3-4 times a week for over 40 years, but "never practices". Well....that must be some gift!

Sounds like a perfect candidate to challenge Walter Ray Williams for USBC Senior Masters next year! Come on ICE!! Convince him to prove his GIFT!!! If he's as good as you say…he's a shoe in!!

[MICHAEL]

LMAO!!!! Sounds like the title of a crappy book!! YOU know something Aslan,,,, I HOPE YOU prove me WRONG! I will jump on my Goldwing, make the journey form Kansas City Missouri, to Sand-de-A-go!!, and place a Crown made of something very special on your head! Maybe even bring a Diva for you to have, and own!

I will be WATCHING your scores, Not of the lady kind closely!! GOOD LUCK, and God speed!! ice

[MICHAEL]

Yeah, it doesn't address that variable. I noticed that right off the bat. A lot of practice time and effort is wasted practicing mistakes. Music is also a highly-repetitive, muscle memory-rich endeavor -- like bowling. Of course people who are gifted don't rely on practice to do well -- they don't need to. People who do need to end up falling behind because they end up reinforcing bad things.

VERY GOOD POINT! Practice does not translate into IMPROVEMENT, if your reinforcing bad habits!! VERY GOOD POINT! Maybe I do need a coach for few weeks,,, shouldn't take that long to see, and make corrections??

I just don't want a coach to be like a Shrink,,,, ( like a good girl friend that I go 2, to cry on her shoulders,,,whenever I feel down in pin count)! I would rather take drugs!
Legal ones!

[MICHAEL]

Lol. He started bowling in high school, and is now 60 years old.....So he's been bowling for over 40 years. How long has he been playing 3-4 leagues every week.....I'm guessing for quite some time (maybe even more when he was younger?). So he's been playing on average 3-4 times a week for over 40 years, but "never practices". Well....that must be some gift!

He tells me the story of starting out at the age of 3 years old in the basement of his house. His dad set up a small miniature little make-shift bowling alley! I will get his USBC number, and post it. He had high scores way back, said it came easy to him, bowling that is

Funny his nick name at the alley is THE BEAST!,,,, he calls me ANIMAL! LOL He is not a big down and flip bowler,,, he gets his HIGH AVERAGE at 60, throwing a Walter Ray type of ball, delivery.

I think your pointing out that 3 or 4 leagues a week is practice?? Well I do that, but I don't bowl at the level he's at! Maybe I do have a few bad habits that I need to have pointed out as mentioned a few comments back...... that was a VERY GOOD POINT! If I had the GIFT, maybe it would show itself, with a few coaching lessons?? HUMMMMMMMM.....