Bowling Ball Track

[SAbowler]

I was recently looking at the track on my ball and I noticed that the first couple of oil rings go over the thumb hole. Is this a bad thing? It doesn't seem to affect the way the ball is rolling. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

I was recently looking at the track on my ball and I noticed that the first couple of oil rings go over the thumb hole. Is this a bad thing? It doesn't seem to affect the way the ball is rolling. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

Do all of them track over the thumb or just that one? If just that one of look into the layout and consider that when having the next ball drilled.

[billf]

Tracking over any hole is not the best thing. Your pso shop could use or move the weight hole to change the flare potential.

[RobLV1]

I, too, have the problem of tracking very close to the thumb hole. The result is that I cannot use pin down layouts. If you draw a line from your PAP through the pin, you'll find where the bowtie is. If the pin is down the bowtie is too low, and the track will hit the thumb hole. Keep the pin up, and the track should stay off of the thumb hole.

[Wherearemyballs]

Are you turning your hand inside on the backswing? Are your fingers at or below the horizontal plane?

I throw a higher 3/4 roller and have had my balls drilled for it.

I would think a slightly outside wrist rotation on the backswing ( Think of your thumbs clock position) will help you keep your fingers under the ball. And provide the best tilt. Revs come from the lift after the thumb clears. Don't go crazy with the wrist rotation, just be aware of its affects on starting your track out better.

Try this before getting your ball redrilled. Not knowing much about your speed and layout makes it hard to tell you what ball alterations will help best.

I'm fairly quick with the pin an inch and equal to the right of my ring finger. For my high backswing and medium rev rate it works fine. Your needs may be different. Just work on form first and see if it all comes in for you.

[billf]

Are you turning your hand inside on the backswing? Are your fingers at or below the horizontal plane?

I throw a higher 3/4 roller and have had my balls drilled for it.

I would think a slightly outside wrist rotation on the backswing ( Think of your thumbs clock position) will help you keep your fingers under the ball. And provide the best tilt. Revs come from the lift after the thumb clears. Don't go crazy with the wrist rotation, just be aware of its affects on starting your track out better.

Try this before getting your ball redrilled. Not knowing much about your speed and layout makes it hard to tell you what ball alterations will help best.

I'm fairly quick with the pin an inch and equal to the right of my ring finger. For my high backswing and medium rev rate it works fine. Your needs may be different. Just work on form first and see if it all comes in for you.

Why, why, why would you tell anybody to get outside the ball in the backswing? It is bio-mechanically incorrect. Our anatomy would cause chicken winging, swing plane behind the back and a myriad of other ailments so bad the bowling industry has been preaching as loud as possible to NOT DO THIS FOR YEARS! Outside wrist rotation on the backswing, otherswise known as the reverse loop.

[Wherearemyballs]

Why, why, why would you tell anybody to get outside the ball in the backswing? It is bio-mechanically incorrect. Our anatomy would cause chicken winging, swing plane behind the back and a myriad of other ailments so bad the bowling industry has been preaching as loud as possible to NOT DO THIS FOR YEARS! Outside wrist rotation on the backswing, otherswise known as the reverse loop.

How do you get slightly, Don't go crazy with wrist position and chicken winging confused? 12 to 12:30 , not 3:00

He's rolling on the thumb hole. And probably turning his thumb inside on the backswing. He will get better tilt and lift if he is aware of his thumb at release. Its not rocket science.

He wont lift much better, if any. But getting off of the thumb will deliver more energy to the pins.

Saving my sarcasm for a Gold Certified coach. I do believe in not coaching your own family who ignores you most of the time anyway. I also believe I said , don't go crazy. If this wont work , then look into altering the ball.

Anyone care to comment on who made good money doing it wrong?

[bowl1820]

How do you get slightly, Don't go crazy with wrist position and chicken winging confused? 12 to 12:30 , not 3:00...............Anyone care to comment on who made good money doing it wrong?

I believe there might be a phrasing/terminology problem here which is possibly causing a misunderstanding.

Maybe be go into more detail on what you meant by " outside wrist rotation on the backswing"


A lack of axis tilt can cause a high track and the clipping of the thumbhole, also staying in the thumb too long can cause it to track very close to the thumb.

[Wherearemyballs]

I believe there might be a phrasing/terminology problem here which is possibly causing a misunderstanding.


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Maybe I should have said Thumb/forearm position rather than Wrist position.

The important thing is the OP is now aware of steps to tryout to lower his track. For all we know the OP could be just starting out and clawing the ball at 10 and 2. And needs to develop an understanding of thumb positions affect on release.

[SAbowler]

First of all, thanks for the replies!

Do all of them track over the thumb or just that one? If just that one of look into the layout and consider that when having the next ball drilled.

No, only the first and second rings go over the thumb.

I, too, have the problem of tracking very close to the thumb hole. The result is that I cannot use pin down layouts. If you draw a line from your PAP through the pin, you'll find where the bowtie is. If the pin is down the bowtie is too low, and the track will hit the thumb hole. Keep the pin up, and the track should stay off of the thumb hole.

Thanks. I will take that into consideration when getting my next ball(s) drilled.

Are you turning your hand inside on the backswing? Are your fingers at or below the horizontal plane?

I throw a higher 3/4 roller and have had my balls drilled for it.

I would think a slightly outside wrist rotation on the backswing ( Think of your thumbs clock position) will help you keep your fingers under the ball. And provide the best tilt. Revs come from the lift after the thumb clears. Don't go crazy with the wrist rotation, just be aware of its affects on starting your track out better.

Try this before getting your ball redrilled. Not knowing much about your speed and layout makes it hard to tell you what ball alterations will help best.

I'm fairly quick with the pin an inch and equal to the right of my ring finger. For my high backswing and medium rev rate it works fine. Your needs may be different. Just work on form first and see if it all comes in for you.

I try to stay behind the ball in the backswing, but I know that I sometimes do turn my hand inside. And again, I try to keep my fingers below horizontal, but sometimes I can feel my wrist break in the back swing. UGH! Inconsistency sucks!!

I believe there might be a phrasing/terminology problem here which is possibly causing a misunderstanding.

Maybe be go into more detail on what you meant by " outside wrist rotation on the backswing"


A lack of axis tilt can cause a high track and the clipping of the thumbhole, also staying in the thumb too long can cause it to track very close to the thumb.

I don't have a lot of axis tilt. I assume because I stay behind the ball too long during my release.